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shadow71
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Message 51 of 373 (644408)
12-17-2011 5:04 PM
Reply to: Message 49 by Coyote
12-17-2011 10:45 AM


Re: Unintelligent Non-design
Space, time, matter... everything originated in the Big Bang, an incommensurably huge explosion that happened 13.7 billion years ago. The Universe was then incredibly hot and dense but only a few moments after, as it started to cool down, the conditions were just right to give rise to the building blocks of matter — in particular, the quarks and electrons of which we are all made. A few millionths of a second later, quarks aggregated to produce protons and neutrons, which in turn were bundled into nuclei three minutes later.
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chuck77 writes:
How about you show how DNA was produced unintelligently out of nowhere and we'll work on showing how it was produced SN. The first one to the finish line wins.
coyote writes:
That's an easy one:
Making Genetic Networks Operate Robustly: Unintelligent Non-design Suffices, by Professor Garrett Odell (online lecture):
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Abstract: Mathematical computer models of two ancient and famous genetic networks act early in embryos of many different species to determine the body plan. Models revealed these networks to be astonishingly robust, despite their 'unintelligent design.' This examines the use of mathematical models to shed light on how biological, pattern-forming gene networks operate and how thoughtless, haphazard, non-design produces networks whose robustness seems inspired, begging the question what else unintelligent non-design might be capable of.
You don't answer Chuck77's question as to how DNA or anything was produced out of nowhere.
If there was no Space, Time or Matter, or anything prior to the Big Bang there is no proof that NATURE has in fact produced anything.
This could lead one to the conclusion whatever produced the Big Bang is in fact the originator of all we now find in the universe incuding Biological Evolution.
It is just as easy to assume that Biological evolultion is a result of a plan prior to or at the time of the Big Bang and what we now know as evolution is in fact a planned process.
You cannot prove NATURE is the producer of evolution, but it may in fact be the result of a designed plan.
Many on this board say show me a Designer, I say show me how NATURE began.

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