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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
NoNukes writes: So now, you believe life can arise from non-matter? Show the evidence supporting this. What seems particularly ironic about this, is that the theory of evolution says nothing about how life arose, but Genesis says that life was created directly from dirt. ID creationists can top that. According to BB and Singularity zero-time theory, you sheeple believe that the whole Universe arose from non-matter, no energy, no time, no space. Trump that creationist card, if you can. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." 
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Buzsaw Inactive Member
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Pressie writes: See, this is what I mean with my post earlier. Creationists always tell untruths. Always. Until you show evidence of your blind assertion that creationists always tell untruths, according to EvC protocol, you need to cite evidence and falsify all that all stripes of creationists tell. There are old earth/universe unique creationists. I am a unique creationist, for example, who is not evolutionists or BBist and who am not YEC, believing in an eternal Universe, eternal god, and intelligent design. At least, all creationists are not sheeple who march to one drum beat, played in nearly all educational institutions from pre-school on up through post doctorate. Creationist are more likely to think for themselves than Evolutionists are. Creationists need not aspire for peer reviews, by and large. The secularistic science peers see to that.-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."
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Buzsaw Inactive Member
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bluegenes writes: If he's implying that science doesn't ask "why" questions, then I strongly disagree with both of you on that point. That's why science loves relativity and quantum. That's why science shuns logic, common sense and objectivity. Too many whys remain un-asked and un-told by science. For examples, science sweeps under the rug, the whys of the zero/singularity event, the whys of before space/time existed, the logics of how life, managed to manage biogenesis through the early stages of emergence from chaotic soup to amazingly complex life systems, the whys of the fact that all recorded historical cultures have been religious, the whys their assumption of uniformitarion expansion all the way down through the billions of alleged years from the alleged singularity, the whys of the alleged extension of all dinosaurs, all the while, the survival of the other species, etc, etc, etc.........BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."
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Buzsaw Inactive Member
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Tangle writes: This is terribly jumbled and mostly unitelligable, but I take it that you think science is avoiding questions in these areas? If so, you're just plain wrong - the only thing science IS interested in is understanding the natural world; that's all of it. Why would it not be interested in fully understanding such things? This is a really weird thing to say. Anyone capable of understanding what is is should have no problem with the message. You're right. Science is too narrow minded, illogical and un-objective to be interested in researching anything pertaining to intelligence of a higher capability than what we experience on our tiny planet. It's not weird at all. It's just science's secularistic bent, so as to avoid any accountability to a higher authority. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
bluegenes writes: Buzsaw writes:
quote: The difference between a scientific approach to reality and yours, Buzsaw, is that scientists will certainly ask questions about things that are unknown, but until they have good answers, they will say "we don't yet know or understand such and such". They will make all the observations they can, they will hypothesise, they will try to extend their knowledge but, unlike you, they will not make up subjective, emotion-based, desire-filled, fantasy answers. Like science's reluctance to falsify cited research and evidence of the Exodus crossing? Like science's reluctance to any consideration of observable fulfilled ancient Biblical prophecies relative to ID? Like science's aversion towards asking questions or studies on anything depicting what is considered on tiny planet earth as the supernatural What is invisible to humans and considered supernatural by tiny earthlings, is likely common in the Universe at large. The evidence of some phenomena observable on earth attests to the need for science to extend the scope of their research. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
crashfrog writes: Not to join the pile-up, but I'm always surprised by people who claim that science doesn't have an explanation for something, when its obvious that the scope and boundaries of science is something they have no knowledge of.Buz, are you sure that science makes no study of the Big Bang singularity? Are you aware that the Large Hadron Collider exists to study that exact phenomenon? Are you sure that there's no scientific study of abiogenesis? Any freshman text on genetics written since 2003 should make mention of the "RNA world" model which explains how you can bootstrap evolutionary genetics with RNA, which we now know has both the self-replicating properties of DNA and the enzymatic activity of proteins. the whys of the alleged extension of all dinosaurs "Extension" of the dinosaurs? Did you mean "extinction"? And why do you think that science doesn't grapple with the extinction of the dinosaurs? The Alverezes (father and son) famously proposed that an asteroid impact devastated the Earth's biosphere, causing the extinction of megafaunal species. This proposal was supported by the high concentrations of extraterrestrial iridium in K-T sediments, and was ultimately confirmed by the discovery of the Chicxulub impact crater. So, again - are these things that science has no explanation for, or are these things that science has explanations for that you just hadn't heard about? What's your science background, Buz? What classes have you taken? Or are you just trying to wing it based on creationist books you've read and what we've patiently tried to explain to you over the years? Studies, studies and more studies, relativity, quantum theory, uniformity assumptions. That's it for science. That's where the money, the peers and the secularism is. The logic, the common sense, the the real here and now observable, the cultural the recorded historical, etc all attest to supportive evidence of an intelligent designer. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
Omnivorous writes: I'd dearly love to study supernatural things on this tiny li'l planet. Could you show me some? Go to the archives. I've been showing real time observable supportive evidence for over 8 years what secularistic minded scientists ignore. Go read and figure. I can lead you to the water but I can't make you drink. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW. The Immeasurable Present Eternally Extends the Infinite Past And Infinitely Consumes The Eternal Future. Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool."
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