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sidelined
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Message 225 of 230 (220962)
06-30-2005 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 210 by TimChase
06-29-2005 3:31 AM


Re: What is Extraneous?
TimChase
Perhaps an atheist who is convinced that there is no God would like that included to. Afterall, as far as he sees it, the non-existence of God is a fact, and if people don't recognize as much, then he tell them they might as well be insisting that 2+2=5.
Just to launch a small correction to the defining of atheism you noted here. As an atheist my position is not that the non-existence of god is a fact but that the evidence for the existence of a god is what is non existent.
Just a correction I felt needed saying. Please continue.

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sidelined
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Message 229 of 230 (221067)
07-01-2005 2:31 AM
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06-30-2005 3:44 PM


Re: What is Extraneous?
TimChase
Some agnostics might claim that they themselves have no evidence for the existence of God, but that such evidence may nevertheless exist.
True enough though,for me, the lack of evidence for the existence is also sufficient to allow me to be comfortable with choosing the most likely scenario for such a universe in which we live as being the result of itself.
Finally, I believe that there would be two distinct subspecies of atheists: those who claim that in the absence of evidence for the existence of God, we should assume that no God exists; and, those who believe that they are in the possession of some form of argument that no God exists
I am probably the former though my difficulty is in just what constitutes God as an entity and what possible evidence could we have of that which leaves no trace.It is also my impression over the years that the irrationality of men and the ease with which we fool ourselves if we are not attentive is more likely an expalnation of the various manifestations of such.
But that is simply my personal position which I would never seek to impose upon anyone, or for that matter, convince any of even if they were willing. I have neither the need nor the desire.
I feel it is a condition of human relationships that convincing people is not really possible anyway.The best we can achieve is to lay out the arguements of our observations and allow others to view those observations and our impressions of them and leave it at that.
One caveat being ,of course, that you are entitled to your own opinion but never your own facts.
Good day T.C.

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