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Author Topic:   Evidence for Evolution: Whale evolution
mike the wiz
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Message 250 of 443 (795551)
12-14-2016 2:32 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by dan4reason
01-02-2012 12:36 PM


The opening message of this topic highlights a serious problem with artwork. Incredibly people still show pictures of Rhodocetus as a fully formed skeleton with a tail fluke. If you look in the following pictures in this thread, you will see they never found those tail vertebrae for Rhodocetus.
Yes, the transitional evidence will scream "evolution" if you turn that evidence into pictures of full skeletons people have drawn with the assumption of evolution in mind, but Phil Gingerich, the founder of Rhodocetus, himself now rejects that it had a tail fluke. Either way, if you believe it did or believe it didn't those pictures are very misleading.
Ambulocetus is also not a full skeleton like shown in the diagram, I think they actually found something like 45% of Ambulocetus, and "add" the rest, by imagination. Conjecturally that is okay if you want to speculate an evolution of whales but like with all of the "transitionals by artwork" they tend to show a very distorted version of the actual facts.
Here is the thread I discussed it, please see message number # 9, remember, I am not attacking evolution as such here, I am just attacking the use of art to mislead people into thinking these fully formed whale-like skeletons are factual, when they simply are not.
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Disclaimer: I'm okay with people saying, "well, this sure looks like it could be an evolution of whales" but I'm not okay with fake drawings of complete skeletons they've never actually ever found, which may well not have had tail flukes and a whale like evolutionary anatomy (or on the way there).

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