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frako
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Message 33 of 164 (667638)
07-10-2012 4:13 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by 1.61803
07-10-2012 10:32 AM


Re: feeling the heat
Buzz would probably say this isn't global warming its god punishing us for da gays

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Message 48 of 164 (668035)
07-16-2012 1:20 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by foreveryoung
07-16-2012 12:22 PM


Can you prove that increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide since 1950 is responsible for the increase in temperature since that time? You cannot do it.
Yup the same way i cannot prove the theory of gravity, germ theory or any other theory.
But let me try to explain to you how the heating of the earth works.
The sun shines its light upon the earth
Now all this light gets absorbed by the earth and it heats it up, but the earth is rotating and soon it is night so the earth starts loosing heat.
This is the wavelength fare in to the infra read the earth emits.
Now greenhouse gasses absorb light at different wavelengths CO2 absorbs light at about 4 microns.
Only a tiny fraction of the light coming from the sun is at 4 microns so almost all of it gets trough our atmosphere and heats up the earth.
But almost 1% of the light emitted by the earth in to space to cool it can get absorbed by CO2.
And as CO2 absorbs it it irradiates the light back to the earth to warm it up again.
Now we have been steadily increasing our output of CO2 in to the atmosphere thus basicly coating our atmosphere with a 2 way mirror letting all the light in but not allowing all of it out.

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Message 72 of 164 (668439)
07-21-2012 5:07 AM
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07-21-2012 2:37 AM


2012 is USA's warmest year on record, so far 2012 to be warmest year on record
Page Not Found | Reuters 2011- the warmest year on record
http://www.noaanews.noaa.gov/...11/20110112_globalstats.html
2010 tied for warmest year on record
NASA - 2009: Second Warmest Year on Record; End of Warmest Decade 2009- tied for warmest year on record
yea 11 warmest records where broken in the past 13 years
HIDE THE DECLINE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND WHERE THE FU#$ DO YOU SEE A HOCKEY STICK!!!!
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Message 73 of 164 (668442)
07-21-2012 6:28 AM
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07-21-2012 3:22 AM


It was driven by an increase in atmospheric water vapor without an concomitant increase in cloud cover. This lack of increase in cloud cover is the same we saw that caused the increase in ocean temperature due to more shortwave radiation penetration.
Yes there is an increase in water vapours and its the cause of man
https://www-pls.llnl.gov/?url=science_and_technology-eart...
High energy short wave radiation penetrates to great depths in the ocean.
correct why do you think that is because water does not absorb that energy very well
at 100 meter or 350 feet under water you can still see the light
So the sun is heating up a huge amount of water at a time with a value of X amount of energy. But energy emission trapped and re released twords the earth warm the surface of the water only a small % of a % of what the sun is warming with roughly X/100 energy value. What is going to heat up their portion of the water first?
As an example what will heat up first a pool of water 10X10X100 heated by the sun, or a pool of water 10x10x0.01 heated by 100 times less energy fare in the infra read spectre.
and yes water vapour in itself is a greenhouse gas, what people like you dont understand that global warming or climate change is more of a domino effect with our CO2 emission we just tipped the first domino, water vapour is another domino tipped by CO2, the 3d domino will be the tundra releasing a whole shit load of carbon that has been trapped for 1000ds of years .....
The only hope we have is that we pick up the first domino co2 and hope the other dominoes will pick themselves up too because we cant, but if we wait too long they wont be able to pick themselves up.
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frako
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Message 81 of 164 (668462)
07-21-2012 12:50 PM
Reply to: Message 76 by foreveryoung
07-21-2012 12:27 PM


You still are not understanding. There has been a huge change in sunspot activity since the little ice age.
Ok the little ice age lasted from 1560 to 1850, we dont have sunspot data from 1560 but we do have some sunspot data from 1750 and onwards
And i dont see any major changes in sunspot activity from that date to now. Now tell me how do you know sunspots where the cause of the little ice age and are the cause of today's climate changes if there is relatively no change and we dont have any records of changes?
You accuse scientists making up evidence about global warming but you dont even provide any evidence for your assertions.
So fare numerous possible culprtis could be responsible for the little ice age
1. solar activity but its mainly pinned there because we dont understand the corealations between sunspot activity and raising and lowering of temperatures.
2. More probable vulcanic activity douring that period the earth had an increase in vulcanic activity and THAT HAS BEEN KNOWN to cause cooling periods.
3. Orbital cycles there was a long term trend of cooling caused by the earth's orbital cycles causeing a rough 0.2 degree cooling per century, well except in the last century when we started to warm things up with a blanket of CO2
4. Ocean conveyor slowdown possiby slowed down do to the warming period before the littl ice age
5. Decreased human populations yea we had an impact back then too mainly by cutting down trees and douring that period an a little before it there was a huge decline in human population meaning no agriculture and a whole lot of CO2 could have been reabsorbed in to lovely trees
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Message 86 of 164 (668486)
07-22-2012 5:57 AM


Legal question
Given that in America you can sue somebody over anything in say 10 years time when shit really hits the fan and half of the world is thirsty the other half is starving, and there is no question any more about global warming would it be possible to sue the global warming deniers for hindering us while we where trying to stop the tragedy.

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frako
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Message 88 of 164 (668489)
07-22-2012 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 87 by Dr Adequate
07-22-2012 6:13 AM


Re: Legal question
Probably not, or not in most cases.
It was possible to sue tobacco companies when (a) they sold tobacco (b) they had themselves accumulated evidence that smoking was harmful (c) they lied about this and concealed the evidence.
It would be an unconscionable act against free speech if you could sue someone just for being an idiot.
Im not talking about the idiots who bought in to the whole global warming is a scam thing but the people who invented it, the guys who made documentaries using incomplete graphs and outdated data and made up data to support their claim there is no global warming and then went on a money making tour preaching this all over the world.
But since you mentioned tobacco companies what about oil companies could one sue them they have the data that their product is damaging our environment and climate.

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