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Topic: Does science ask and answer "why" questions?
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 74 of 353 (647347)
01-09-2012 11:18 AM
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Reply to: Message 68 by Straggler
01-09-2012 10:18 AM
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Re: Nuances.
Yes, I am saying that the personal preference can be studied by science until the cows come home and still be unable to tell me any reason why I hold that preference.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 77 of 353 (647367)
01-09-2012 12:33 PM
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Reply to: Message 76 by Modulous
01-09-2012 12:29 PM
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
The system can be studied yet still never explain why I like the blue sky.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 85 of 353 (647406)
01-09-2012 3:57 PM
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Reply to: Message 80 by Straggler
01-09-2012 12:56 PM
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Re: Nuances.
Right, but love, preference, ideals are not physical. And the cause is of course irrelevant to the preference.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 86 of 353 (647408)
01-09-2012 3:58 PM
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Reply to: Message 83 by Modulous
01-09-2012 1:13 PM
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
It is irrelevant what the cause is and ephemeral as well. In fact knowing the cause quite often destroys the very thing studied.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 88 of 353 (647414)
01-09-2012 4:16 PM
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Reply to: Message 87 by bluegenes
01-09-2012 4:07 PM
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
I don't think science should stop studying anything. It is always neat to know more as long as you remember that some knowledge is irrelevant to the reality.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 90 of 353 (647420)
01-09-2012 4:29 PM
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Reply to: Message 89 by Taq
01-09-2012 4:23 PM
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Re: Nuances.
That is like saying that
is a particular series of brush strokes. Sure it can be done but does it have the same meaning as the object itself?
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 93 of 353 (647429)
01-09-2012 4:45 PM
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Reply to: Message 91 by Modulous
01-09-2012 4:34 PM
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
Yes, it is clear that so far you fail to see my point. I'm sorry.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 94 of 353 (647433)
01-09-2012 4:47 PM
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Reply to: Message 92 by bluegenes
01-09-2012 4:38 PM
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
I think that you are close. The firing neurons are not love, or beauty, or joy, or sorrow and knowing that the process, the mechanics of love or beauty or joy or sorrow is irrelevant to actually feeling love or beauty or joy or sorrow.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 97 of 353 (647441)
01-09-2012 5:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 95 by Taq
01-09-2012 5:03 PM
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Re: Nuances.
Which says nothing about why I think the sky is blue today or what I am feeling when I look at De La Tour's St. Joseph.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 100 of 353 (647447)
01-09-2012 5:20 PM
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Reply to: Message 98 by bluegenes
01-09-2012 5:07 PM
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
I'm saying that we feel those emotions and hold those beliefs and experience love and joy and sorrow and happiness regardless of the cause and dealing with neuron firings misses the whole point of the experience. Why does not have but one meaning. Science deals with the mechanical why, philosophy and theology deal with ideal why.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Message 101 of 353 (647448)
01-09-2012 5:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 99 by Taq
01-09-2012 5:07 PM
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Re: Nuances.
And about as relevant.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Nuances.
And ST Joseph can be reduced to pigment and brush stroke, but then it loses its impact and value.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
Love, honor, beauty, faith, God ...
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
No, the neurons do not cause love, honor, faith, beauty, God ...
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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jar
Member (Idle past 416 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: 04-20-2004
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Re: Observations in the realm of thoughts
I don't think the ideals have causes.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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