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Author Topic:   SOPA/PIPA and 'Intellectual Property'
caffeine
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Message 13 of 303 (649067)
01-20-2012 9:19 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Tangle
01-20-2012 9:06 AM


As I understand it, most films don't make a profit anyway. People continue to make films because people like to produce art. With less of a profit incentive, of course, we may see less big budget Hollywood style films, since it will be harder to get investment from people only seeing it as a money making vehicle.
There would still be incentive to produce special effects bonanzas along the lines of Transformers, or superhero films, for merchandising reasons. They might look even more like expensive toy adverts than they already do, however.

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caffeine
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Message 102 of 303 (649394)
01-23-2012 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 100 by Tangle
01-23-2012 5:52 AM


Even after all that it doesn't seem as though it was a big commercial success. It cost 18m to make and despite being the biggest box office success in Dutch history it only took 6,953,118 gross (ie before costs and payments to rights holders) at the Dutch box office.
International sales may have doubled that and sell through to video will have added more but it's not an obvious financial success - and this is the biggest and most successful movie the Dutch have ever made. It would have been utterly impossible to make without copyright protection.
International sales "may" have doubled that? Holland is a tiny market, with a population smaller than the New York metropolitan area. It's international box office gross was more than 20 million Euros. Box office figures are also only a small part of the revenue stream for a film. A typical Hollywood film makes more on both DVD sales and on licencing for TV than it does at the cinema, so looking at the domestic gross doesn't tell us much about the overall financial success of a production.

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Message 179 of 303 (650335)
01-30-2012 9:39 AM
Reply to: Message 166 by crashfrog
01-29-2012 2:54 PM


Re: Problems with the current copyright model
'Halfling' is actually a word from Scots English that predates Tolkein by a century or two, meaning either a short person or a young person.
I'm not that sympathetic to NoNukes' position, but to be fair the topic you're arguing here is a bit of a seperate one to the whole debate. I think you'll find few people, beyond the holders of the rights involved, that wouldn't agree the length of some intellectual property is ridiculous. There is no justification for hobbits, Superman or Mickey Mouse not being in the public domain, their creators all being dead for some time. Whether a film produced in 2011 should still be protected by copyright law is a wholly seperate question.

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