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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Okay, you may now try to post something that is related to the topic.
Do you have any evidence that morality is decreasing over time. Do most people consider slavery immoral now? Do most people consider interracial marriage immoral? Do most people consider murder by "Princes" immoral? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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sidelined Member (Idle past 5929 days) Posts: 3435 From: Edmonton Alberta Canada Joined: |
scotness
'Don't give me that ooey gooey nonsense about loving your mother. I want proof that you love your mother. Bring forth the witnesses and show me the money! And don't bother with that, because they are not credible witnesses. I don't believe you love your mother. And nothing you can say can prove to me that you do! You evade again the issue altogether scotness. I am not after proof as you use in this strawman example of yours. I only require evidence which I can examine for myself. Since mothers tend to be a common experience for people and feelings that we call love are as well then these are the things I would set as examples of evidence. Proofs are for mathematics. Also in your example you are a priori asserting the conclusion that my mother does not exist and have set your beliefs to filter out the possibility despite the evidence to the contrary.I, on the other hand, am quite willing to examine the evidence you would give as support for your assertion of a God. The difficulty for you lies not in my unwillingness to deal with the evidence but on the poor quality of the evidence you bring to the discussion. Your just making assertions that are not in any way verifiable. And don't give me any emotional examples that you ASSUME or PROJECT on to me, and expect me to relate. That is just avoiding the subject and trying manipulate me into admitting that I understand something I do not! I want a logical argument only... that proves to me you love your mother. Don't let your emotion get in the way! You again avoid dealing with the issues by setting up a situation totally out of line with my requirements for your assertions. Please lose the rigid attitude that is clouding your ability to debate honestly and with respect sir. Failing this please excuse yourself from the discussion.Logical arguments are not incapable of giving evidence for the quality of emotion we deem love sir. Again you are playing the whiny oppressed christian card and expecting that this is somehow a debate tactic rather than a childish ploy to hand wave away the difficulty that You must deal with in your assertions. Grow up and participate instead of throwing mild temper tantrums in the vain hope that people will somehow think you have a valid issue. Dear Mrs Chown, Ignore your son's attempts to teach you physics. Physics isn't the most important thing. Love is. Best wishes, Richard Feynman.
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5870 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
I'm not evading anything. I was revealing your strawman, not mine! I'm glad you agree that it is!
That whole barrage of mine was clearly qualified (when I asked what you would say if I said the following...) as sarcasm only, to illustrate the absurdity of your argument for evidence being brought to bear. The fact that you find the logic so appalling, really only shows that we agree! But it is your argument that has failed the test. Anyone can go back and read the post! That is if they are looking for truth.
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AdminAsgara Administrator (Idle past 2323 days) Posts: 2073 From: The Universe Joined: |
Rob, the topic is "Morality Decreasing With Time"
If you are unable to post anything pertinent to the topic then refrain from posting at all. What got Rob banned was a failure to stay on topic and preaching in every single thread he posted in. Then when unable to post the unsolicited email preaching started. You are very lucky that you haven't been banned again for your dishonest tactics. AdminAsgara Queen of the Universe Comments on moderation procedures (or wish to respond to admin messages)? - Go to:
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5870 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Okay, you may now try to post something that is related to the topic. No jar... from my perspective, it's been made clear that that is the one thing I am not allowed to do. Do you think we have different perpectives? I will accept that fact for once and try not to take justice into my own hands, though I already made one appeal for mercy! I'm done with this thread. I've made my case. If you are not satisfied in your humble opinion that I have done so, then so be it.
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AdminBuzsaw Inactive Member |
I have to agree with AdminAsgara, Scottness/Rob. If you are to serve the creationist team/agenda here well you need to do so within the Forum Guidelines. Otherwise your eagerness to preach evangelistically off topic serves to hinder rather than strengthen the cause you wish to serve and to antagonize folks with whom you want to dialog and debate. Please work hard to operate within the topic perameters so as to be able to participate.
NOTE: If you wish to respond to admin action, please do so in the appropriate moderation thread. Thanks. Edited by AdminBuzsaw, : No reason given.
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Buzsaw Inactive Member |
jar writes: Do most people consider slavery immoral now? Do most people consider interracial marriage immoral? I don't consider these matters to be a moral issue. Rather they are an amoral social issuem (abe: unrelated to the thread topic. } Edited by Buzsaw, : No reason given. BUZSAW B 4 U 2 C Y BUZ SAW ---- Jesus said, "When these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads, for your redemption draws near." Luke 21:28
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
Buz quotes jar asking:
Do most people consider slavery immoral now? Do most people consider interracial marriage immoral? to which buz makes the amazing flying goalpost reply ...
quote: Good God Buz. Can't you tap dance better than that? I'm getting dizzy watching you move them goalposts. Slavery is not a moral issue? Marriage is not a moral issue? Did you notice that you did not answer the questions (as usual) and also totally ignored one of the questions. Here is the original in case you missed it.
jar writes: All you have provided is assertions, bare unsupported assertions. How do you propose we measure the actual difference between crime at the various points in history? The point is that the things you mentioned are simply not measurable. There are no accurate statistics. But there is something we can measure to see if Morality is decreasing or increasing. Do most people consider slavery immoral now? Do most people consider interracial marriage immoral? Do most people consider murder by "Princes" immoral? Let's try a few more examples and simple questions. Do you consider having the right to a fair trial moral? Do you consider a government imposed by force moral? Do you consider punishments designed to provide slow painful deaths like stoning or the stocks as moral? Do you consider lynching moral? Do you consider denying people basic human rights based on color or sex as moral? Aslan is not a Tame Lion
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Rob  Suspended Member (Idle past 5870 days) Posts: 2297 Joined: |
Ok Buz... I do get caught in the moment don't I?
Thanks for the honest confirmation. Sidelined and I had gotten off into a tangent only semi-related to this thread. My apologies for any confusion. I'll respect the Admin on that. I have made my case in this thread as best I can in post 255: http://EvC Forum: Morality Decreasing With Time? -->EvC Forum: Morality Decreasing With Time? If we will not learn to eat the only food that the universe grows ” the only food that any possible universe ever can grow ” then we must starve eternally. (Lewis- The Problem of Pain)
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joshua221  Inactive Member |
quote: Why would I implicate myself in being part of this joke? I once was. Edited by prophex, : No reason given.
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 3619 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
prophex: Why would I implicate myself in being part of this joke? I once was. You still are, ace. You read and post here. Welcome to the joke. If you're going to take yourself out of the gag, begone. Otherwise it's all talk. ___ Edited by Archer Opterix, : brev. Archer All species are transitional.
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Archer Opteryx Member (Idle past 3619 days) Posts: 1811 From: East Asia Joined: |
The Archbishop Desmond Tutu found much progress to celebrate in his famous Millennium Address (1999.12.31) at Washington National Cathedral. He noted how many age-old evils that plaqued humankind in the year 1000 had been conquered by 2000 and how much progress was being made on other fronts.
___ Edited by Archer Opterix, : reduced title. Archer All species are transitional.
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Brian Member (Idle past 4980 days) Posts: 4659 From: Scotland Joined: |
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. Who was the virgin that gave birth in the Book of Isaiah?
And His Spirit, will be reborn again and again among many, until the end of the age. (that's last part's not in the Bible, but it would fit) 'Christian' in adding to biblical text shocker!!
And here's to another year A.D. ! B.C. and A.D. are outdated now, the proper terms are BCE and CE. Regarding morality, do you think it was moral of God to effectively rape Mary? Brian.
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nator Member (Idle past 2191 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Rob, do you think it is honest to register under a new ID at a forum where one has been banned?
Yes or no? (A single word answer is all that is required)
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nator Member (Idle past 2191 days) Posts: 12961 From: Ann Arbor Joined: |
Not really quote: Buz, you constantly make unsupported claims and expect everybody else to simply believe you. Why can't I just deny your unsupported claim in exactly the same manner in which you make it?
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