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NoNukes
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Message 38 of 181 (649545)
01-24-2012 8:09 AM
Reply to: Message 34 by Buzsaw
01-23-2012 11:01 PM


Re: Re: Blessed Be The Wealthy Who Bless America.
From the article:
These are proportions of the income tax alone and don’t include payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare.
Gee I wonder why those were excluded. It couldn't be because they are substantial percentages of lower middle class and working poor salaries, yet have caps that limit the proportionate effect on high income earners. After all, the math for applying these is quite simple. Also these taxes aren't even applied to investment income, and who has the lions share of that?
None of that could be the explanation because that would mean that the numbers offered up were an incomplete, misleading picture. But the article then goes on to use the misleading info anyway.
I'll also note that these numbers are a bit dated. It's a 2007 article. Taxes on the wealthy are even lower under the Obama adminstration than under the Bush administration.
So why might the article be written in a way to promote the interest of the one percent? Please. An article published on the website of the American Enterprise Institute? Let's look at a few more articles linked to from the article Buz cites:
The Origins of Envy By Max Borders .
Tim Tebow and the Atheist’s Dilemma By Lee Harris
How Many Jobs Did Romney Create at Bain? By Steve Kaplan
If you read the articles you'll find that they are all heavily spun in exactly the direction any article that Buz cites would spin.
'Nuff said.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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NoNukes
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Message 46 of 181 (649675)
01-25-2012 12:39 AM
Reply to: Message 45 by Phat
01-24-2012 11:24 PM


Re: Obama
Obama hit it out of the park with his Stat Of The Union address. He addressed fairness...which for Americans anyway is mandatory. Globally, im not gonna go that far yet.
I thought it was a pretty good speech too.
But the most fun part of any state of the union speech is listening to the present talk about a clearly partisan policy using patriotic platitudes that nobody should be able to oppose (e.g. shared personal responsibility, americans having each other's backs just like the Navy Seals) and trying to spot people sitting on their hands while large portions of the audience jump to their feet and applaud loudly.
I also enjoyed his calling out of Boehner, who appeared to wish he was anywhere else short of Hell during the entire speech. But I'm generally a lefty.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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NoNukes
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Message 49 of 181 (649685)
01-25-2012 4:18 AM
Reply to: Message 47 by Dr Adequate
01-25-2012 1:07 AM


Re: Obama
Will ever? It already is. I can show you pictures, Governor Daniels. I can cite you statistics. You're talking as though Obama is going to somehow call this situation into existence by mentioning the fact.
Shh! You are only supposed to talk about this stuff in quiet rooms.

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. The proper place to-day, the only place which Massachusetts has provided for her freer and less desponding spirits, is in her prisons, to be put out and locked out of the State by her own act, as they have already put themselves out by their principles. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

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