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Author Topic:   Evolution is not Abiogenesis
New Cat's Eye
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Message 233 of 251 (655669)
03-12-2012 3:41 PM
Reply to: Message 230 by RAZD
03-12-2012 2:55 PM


Re: Summary too nitter natter noo
Biology is a specific subset of chemistry.
So now we have one claim that chemistry is a subset of biology and your counter.
Panda was talking about biological processes, and those do contain chemical processes. But chemistry is not a subset of biology.

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Message 234 of 251 (655670)
03-12-2012 3:45 PM
Reply to: Message 232 by Rahvin
03-12-2012 3:21 PM


Re: Summary too nitter natter noo
Population dynamics, changes to the ecology, stochastic processes, neutral drift ...
...meaning what, exactly? The heritable traits that determine changes in populations and the response to changing environments are deoxyribonucleic acid. The heritability of those traits is yet more chemistry. Neutral drift is a function of neutral mutations in a population, which in turn is just more chemistry.
At best you can claim that social behaviors and natural selection itself are emergent from the complex self-replicating interdependent chemical reactions that make up all forms of life of which we are aware...but at the end of the day, that's still all we are: chemistry.
I get what you're saying, but you don't need any chemistry to study population dynamics.
Just like you don't need any physics to do a chemistry experiment even tho that what it ultimately boils down to.

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Message 237 of 251 (655687)
03-12-2012 5:22 PM
Reply to: Message 235 by RAZD
03-12-2012 4:49 PM


Re: Must be a slow day
Well allow me to be even more pedantic...
A biological process is something that happens within a single organism rather than something that occurs on the population level so those *could* all just be chemical processes.
So everybody was right:
Edited by Catholic Scientist, : No reason given.

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