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Message 48 of 314 (659814)
04-18-2012 9:50 PM 		Reply to: Message 47 by intellen
04-18-2012 9:38 PM

Re: how populations evolve
So in response, doggy1 evolved and got a new trait, i.e., the webbed feet, and passed that trait to doggy2.
No you're still not understanding. Mutations do not happen after birth.
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177
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Message 74 of 314 (659889)
04-19-2012 12:55 PM 		Reply to: Message 69 by intellen
04-19-2012 12:28 PM

Re: how populations evolve - when is it "novel"?
They have feet anyway, OK? So, let us assume that the environment is so static that doggy1 could not escape from the changing environment, so what will doggy1 do?
How can a static environment be changing environment?
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If the environment is ocean, so, will doggy1 had to swim in that ocean current to live? After a while they evolved and got the "webbed feet" as new trait?
Again. Evolution does not occur after birth.
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177
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It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
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Message 77 of 314 (659892)
04-19-2012 1:08 PM 		Reply to: Message 76 by intellen
04-19-2012 1:05 PM

Re: how populations evolve - when is it "novel"?
when environment changes, did the population has no time to go to another place to live for safety?
Is english your first language?
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Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177
​
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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Message 79 of 314 (659896)
04-19-2012 1:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 78 by intellen
04-19-2012 1:11 PM

Re: how populations evolve - when is it "novel"?
Well that explains why you're sometimes hard to understand.
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So, my question will be: when environment changes, did the population has no time to go to another place to live for safety?
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So what are you asking here? is it:
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When an environment changes such that the original population cannot survive in it what happens to that population?
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if that is the question then the answer is:
The population will die out.
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177
​
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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Message 106 of 314 (659958)
04-19-2012 10:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 98 by intellen
04-19-2012 10:08 PM

Re: how populations evolve - when is it "novel"?
Why are you talking about mutation?
Cause mutation is a vital part of evolution
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Edited by DrJones*, : No reason given.
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177
​
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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Message 165 of 314 (660141)
04-21-2012 12:18 PM 		Reply to: Message 164 by foreveryoung
04-21-2012 12:13 PM

Re: slightly off topic ... but we can redirect
I have an argument and my opponent doesn't address my argument; instead he demands evidence.
Asking for evidence is addressing your argument, if your argument doesn't have any support then it is worthless.
God separated the races and attempting to mix them is like attempting to mix water with diesel fuel.- Buzsaw Message 177
​
It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor
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