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I'm glad to see this thread started.I'm not competent to contribute much to it. But I'd like to see a PRATT addressed during the discussion.A creationist might state that nature cannot create the "information" required to produce novel features and "macroevolution" . Dog breeding includes human intervention which can be viewed as being similar to an ID agent stepping in to add information allowing new features like wiener-dog legs.

The latter sentence cannot be right. Not every 2 megabyte disk file contains 2 megabytes of information. For example, a compressed text file contains the same information in both the compressed and uncompressed format. Yet the rules governing the translation from one format to another might require only a few bytes to transmit.I'll note that the latter quoted statement does not follow from the former statement above regarding the amount information required to transmit an amount of information across a channel.I have a vague recollection that we have discussed this issue before.Of course the above should suggest that information and entropy cannot be inversely related as the entropy in a compressed and uncompressed file are different.

I'm not sure why Zaius would think that. I did include a rebuttal of that argument. Maybe he just likes the idea that you were incorrect about something.I wasn't referring to overhead and such. I'm referring to files that are compressible. Like 2 Megabyte files containing all zeroes as an extreme example. The information content of such a file is very small and we can transmit that information across a lossless channel in only a few bytes, even if we count the bytes describing the decompression algorithm.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.