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Phat Member Posts: 18262 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.1 |
I have worked in the grocery industry for 24 years. Having learned the basic skills at customer service, proper ordering, stocking and rotating shelves, produce and dairy, I consider myself skilled at my job and feel that the hard work that I put in (It has gotten twice as intensive the past five years) justifies a liveable wage. In addition, I am the Union Shop Steward for my store, and am well aware of the philosophies, guidelines, and objectives of the local union Local 7 in Colorado. With my position, I am uniquely positioned to see the pros and cons of each differing philosophy between corporate business, store management, union politics, and day to day union concerns.
Times are tough, now. Walmart is going to open 22-30 Grocery Stores which are non union shops here in Colorado within the next year or two. 4 will open in April. The union, of course, wants to picket them, but I feel that the deal is already done...these smaller stores are violating no zoning laws and everyone is quite sure that my company, safeway, may become the first casualty of such a grocery war. Yet as a 52 year old diabetic who is half as strong as a younger man, I feel that I wont be able to compete with the eager new labor coming in. I DO feel that my best chance at fighting this rests with staying with the union...there is always power in numbers ---only problem is they are not very smart as a group. Everybody is out for themselves...you should see the politics and scrambling for position as everyone in the company braces for near certain layoffs. Union wages are what saves a middle class of consumers, however...nobody can help the economy (apart from wealthy stockholders) much by making $8.00 an hour...especially with inflation being factored in. I am open to ideas concerning this grim economic situation. Republicans crow about creating jobs, but what good are minimum wage jobs in todays economic dynamic? Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Edited by Phat, : No reason given. Edited by Phat, : No reason given.
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RAZD Member (Idle past 1406 days) Posts: 20714 From: the other end of the sidewalk Joined: |
Hi Phat,
... With my position, I am uniquely positioned to see the pros and cons of each differing philosophy between corporate business, store management, union politics, and day to day union concerns. Times are tough, now. Walmart is going to open 22-30 Grocery Stores ... Indeed, the war on low income continues.
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Jon Inactive Member |
Why does the apartment have to have two bedrooms?
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Jon Inactive Member |
Union wages are what saves a middle class of consumers, however...nobody can help the economy (apart from wealthy stockholders) much by making $8.00 an hour...especially with inflation being factored in. I am open to ideas concerning this grim economic situation. I have only once ever earned minimum wage, and that was the first few months of my first job ever back when I was 16. Since then, even the starting pay for other jobs I've had has been above minimum wage. Aside from fast-food restaurants, I'm not aware of any other jobs where paying minimum wage is common practice. So how much of a problem is this, really?Love your enemies!
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 802 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Why any bedrooms at all? Why not just have the whole family sleep on the couch? Hell, why even have a bathroom when you could just walk to the gas station and use the shitter there and splash some water on your face to clean up.
"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 802 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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I'm not aware of any other jobs where paying minimum wage is common practice. Go to a temp agency and find a job for someone with a sporadic work history (thank you layoffs!!), no college (HS dropout perhaps) and no tangible skills and you will find PLENTY of jobs at or barely above minimum wage."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 802 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
In researching min. wage, I have found that Federal min. wage means dick and states don't necessarily have to follow it. For example: the Federal minimum wage is $7.25, while the minimum wage in GA is a paltry $5.15. Live on that.
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Jon Inactive Member |
Why any bedrooms at all? Why not just have the whole family sleep on the couch? Hell, why even have a bathroom when you could just walk to the gas station and use the shitter there and splash some water on your face to clean up. Who said there's a whole family living in the thing?Love your enemies!
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined:
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Why does the apartment have to have two bedrooms? For the rest of the family, I presume.
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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1467 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined: |
Who said there's a whole family living in the thing? Oh, I see. Families are for the well-off. (Coffee is for closers.) But wait - isn't birth control only for the well-off, too?
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jar Member (Idle past 395 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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The second bedroom is for the company coming.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 802 days) Posts: 3193 Joined: |
Who said there's a whole family living in the thing? Why would you assume there wasn't? Are families not important enough to consider when calculating living cost that you should only factor in people with no children? It is easier to measure based on at least a 1 child household (which itself is rather rare) which raises the bar for single people with no children, don't you think?"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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Jon Inactive Member |
Why would you assume there wasn't? Are families not important enough to consider when calculating living cost that you should only factor in people with no children? Sure they are. But if we are considering them, then we need to consider the income from every member of the family.Love your enemies!
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Jon Inactive Member |
Why does the apartment have to have two bedrooms? For the rest of the family, I presume. All those people, and yet our statistics are only taking into consideration the wages of a single worker?Love your enemies!
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Jon Inactive Member |
Oh, I see. Families are for the well-off. Obviously completely unrelated to what I said. Nice try, though.Love your enemies!
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