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I think that all the talk about stuff like Trickle Down or Surge Up simply directs attention away from the real issues and allows avoiding the problems just as all the nonsense about whether or not global warming is natural or man caused allows that issue to be ignored.The goal of Government is not "wealth Creation", it is "the Common Weal".The goal of Government is providing services and creating social policy.What really should be discussed and debated is "What services should be available to citizens?""What type of society do we want?""Do we want to see a 'hereditary moneyed class' created?""Do we want to minimize the gap between the rich and poor?"After those questions are debated, the tools government uses are laws, regulations and taxes.If we decide that we do not want to create a 'hereditary moneyed class' then tax estates.If you want to fund services, tax business and individuals.Tax where the money is regardless of the philosophy or method that got the money there.

The question is "whether certain areas should be part of commerce?"Should health care or basic utilities like education, roads, telecommunications, sewer, water, power, police and fire services be "for profit commerce"?

Great subject but not related to this thread.

Sorry but I see no connection between trickle down and deregulation.

Sorry but I still see no connection between "Trickle Down" and deregulation.Thank you for trying though.

However deregulation can also be marketed as providing increased competition and thus good for the consumer.The fact is that how something is marketed does not make two things synonymous.

Actually, no. In the increased competition argument the benefit is given directly to the consumer. It is the consumer that benefits directly from being able to buy from multiple sources.The whole problem as I stated above is that concentrating on the words diverts attention from the problem itself.It is not deregulation that is the issue, but rather what specifically is deregulated and how it is done.

When as a consumer I can buy a sim card that works on any manufacturers phone on any network, that is a direct benefit to the consumer, not a reduction of cost to the corporations.

Again, how does increasing corporate competition reduce corporate costs.

As I said back in Message 78 (All the wrong questions so all the wrong answers), asking if Trickle Down economics works is starting at the wrong end with the wrong question which means we will always get wrong answers.I think that all the talk about stuff like Trickle Down or Surge Up simply directs attention away from the real issues and allows avoiding the problems just as all the nonsense about whether or not global warming is natural or man caused allows that issue to be ignored.The goal of Government is not "wealth Creation", it is "the Common Weal".The goal of Government is providing services and creating social policy.What really should be discussed and debated is "What services should be available to citizens?""What type of society do we want?""Do we want to see a 'hereditary moneyed class' created?""Do we want to minimize the gap between the rich and poor?"After those questions are debated, the tools government uses are laws, regulations and taxes.If we decide that we do not want to create a 'hereditary moneyed class' then tax estates.If you want to fund services, tax business and individuals.Tax where the money is regardless of the philosophy or method that got the money there.