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Author Topic:   A test of your common sense
jar
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Message 13 of 137 (665751)
06-16-2012 8:52 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Taz
06-16-2012 7:59 PM


If you can't apply this example to real life example, then your imagination sucks.
I can't apply that example to anything in real life. I can't even determine whether you are trying to show something, misdirect attention or just plain don't know how to make a drawing.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 33 of 137 (665791)
06-17-2012 7:28 PM
Reply to: Message 32 by Taz
06-17-2012 7:01 PM


So, by looking at it, what does your feeling tell you about the point(s) of failure?
Absolutely nothing. The drawing is without meaning and contains far too many ambiguities to give even a hint about the failure mode.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 40 of 137 (665823)
06-18-2012 11:02 AM
Reply to: Message 38 by Heathen
06-18-2012 10:45 AM


The drawing is not clear. Look at the left portion where the triangle and beam are superimposed. Is it a truncated polygon with a flat surface at the top supporting the beam or is it a triangle with a beam that is angled at the left most edge?
How does "this example represents normal everyday thing that most people deal with"?
Again, what is the point is Taz trying to make?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 42 of 137 (665827)
06-18-2012 11:19 AM
Reply to: Message 41 by Heathen
06-18-2012 11:13 AM


But is it a triangle as shown.
As a one time technical writer who worked closely with draftsmen, that drawing would have simply not passed muster. As a "back of the napkin sketch" it would have elicited questions.
I have not declared it nonsense, but simply asked for clarification.
Taz claimed: "I'd argue that this example represents normal everyday thing that most people deal with."
I still wait for clarification.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 46 of 137 (665836)
06-18-2012 12:15 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Heathen
06-18-2012 11:30 AM


Maybe the folk I worked with just had higher standards.
And no, I do not deal with such things when I walk across a bridge.
Now admittedly, should the bridge fail, I would certainly introduce such a drawing into evidence during a product liability suit.
Further, what I actually said in Message 33 was:
jar writes:
Taz writes:
So, by looking at it, what does your feeling tell you about the point(s) of failure?
Absolutely nothing. The drawing is without meaning and contains far too many ambiguities to give even a hint about the failure mode.
The statement when read in full does not declare it nonsense and suggests that there are additional points that need clarification.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 80 of 137 (665954)
06-20-2012 8:45 AM
Reply to: Message 73 by Heathen
06-20-2012 2:29 AM


Seems you are still misrepresenting what I posted.
Did you look at the OP?
Did you read the OP?
Do you read what you write?
That the drawing represents a beam, catwalk, stadium seats, bridge or any of a dozen or more other objects is irrelevant to the questions asked in the OP.
The question in the OP was,
taz writes:
So, by looking at it, what does your feeling tell you about the point(s) of failure?
and my response was,
jar writes:
Absolutely nothing. The drawing is without meaning and contains far too many ambiguities to give even a hint about the failure mode.
This is not a matter of semantics, it is a reply to the question. Very few people deal with how a bridge is supported or the variations of support attachments in a Ames chair, they sit on it or cross it.
Everyone in this discussion recognized that the diagram represented a bridge (or similar) but that was not the question asked, was it?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 87 of 137 (665967)
06-20-2012 11:22 AM
Reply to: Message 84 by Taz
06-20-2012 10:52 AM


Common Sense tells me that I don't know where the beam will fail.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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