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Dr Adequate
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Message 91 of 150 (667413)
07-06-2012 10:47 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Buzsaw
07-06-2012 9:13 PM


Re: PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THE TITLE & OP
This thread has been derailed from the onset.

Well, since we've proved you wrong about everything, there's really nothing left on topic for us to talk about. We could post the same stuff again, but what's the point?


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Message 92 of 150 (667422)
07-07-2012 4:23 AM
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07-06-2012 9:13 PM


Re: PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THE TITLE & OP
The title and the OP make it plain that you are arguing that there has been an increase in disasters in the US for those reasons. The question of whether there has been an increase in disasters is therefore on topic.

Moreover, we have yet to see any significant reason to believe that the US is "cursing" Israel rather than "blessing" it through the billions of dollars of aid that is sent. Nor have we been given any reason to think that a civil government legitimising consensual homosexual relationships is something that God woul take a great interest in either. Comparisons with Sodom - where, according to the Bible, the entire male population got together to rape male visitors - hardly seem to establish the case.


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Message 93 of 150 (667424)
07-07-2012 6:52 AM
Reply to: Message 88 by Buzsaw
07-06-2012 9:13 PM


Re: PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THE TITLE & OP
This thread has been derailed from the onset. This thread pertains to two curses and only two; how, nationally, America has essentially thrown Israel under the bus while aiding their enemies, oll of whom seek to destroy her, and how, nationally, (I say nationally) America has legitimized sodomy. That's it.
Anything else posted will be considered off topic.

You have been shown how both of these points are not true or unconnected to each other.

We know you love Isreal and hate gays (some of us have had the 'pleasure' of knowing who you hate for years).

Can we shut down your stupid soap box thread, now?


The above ontological example models the zero premise to BB theory. It does so by applying the relative uniformity assumption that the alleged zero event eventually ontologically progressed from the compressed alleged sub-microscopic chaos to bloom/expand into all of the present observable order, more than it models the Biblical record evidence for the existence of Jehovah, the maximal Biblical god designer.
-Attributed to Buzsaw Message 53

The explain to them any scientific investigation that explains the existence of things qualifies as science and as an explanation
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Does a query (thats a question Stile) that uses this physical reality, to look for an answer to its existence and properties become theoretical, considering its deductive conclusions are based against objective verifiable realities.
-Attributed to Dawn Bertot Message 134


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Message 94 of 150 (667425)
07-07-2012 8:06 AM
Reply to: Message 83 by dwise1
07-06-2012 12:57 PM


Re: Disasters
Hi Dwise1,

Wasn't quibbling, just thought it interesting.

Buz thinks what he thinks independent of any evidence, but he does cause a lot of interesting information to be brought to light.

--Percy


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ProtoTypical
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Message 95 of 150 (667429)
07-07-2012 10:40 AM


Accuracy
In the interest of accuracy, US aid to Israel is only about $3 billion and not $30 billion as was previously stated.

Source


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Message 96 of 150 (667430)
07-07-2012 11:42 AM
Reply to: Message 95 by ProtoTypical
07-07-2012 10:40 AM


Re: Accuracy
Just $3,000,000,000 a year? That's a bus I wouldn't mind being thrown under!
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Message 97 of 150 (667431)
07-07-2012 12:04 PM
Reply to: Message 88 by Buzsaw
07-06-2012 9:13 PM


Re: PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THE TITLE & OP
Buzsaw writes:

...America has essentially thrown Israel under the bus while aiding their enemies....


I'm a big fan of Israel too. I don't want to see another Jewish Holocaust in the Middle East.

But I don't want to see an Arab Holocaust either. I support the existence of Israel but I don't approve of Israel's policies. (I don't always approve of Canada's policies either.)

If God wants to protect Israel, let Him do it. You Americans don't have to do it for Him. Are you trying to fulfill the prophecy yourselves?


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Dr Adequate
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Message 98 of 150 (667433)
07-07-2012 1:53 PM
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07-07-2012 10:40 AM


Re: Accuracy
In the interest of accuracy, US aid to Israel is only about $3 billion and not $30 billion as was previously stated.

In that case I withdraw my previous remarks. Bring on the plague of locusts, we deserve it.

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Message 99 of 150 (667437)
07-07-2012 3:16 PM
Reply to: Message 95 by ProtoTypical
07-07-2012 10:40 AM


Re: Accuracy
The $30 billion, if you check the link I posted, is the overall cost from 2008 to 2018.

$3 bill a year for 10 years.

- Oni

Edited by onifre, : No reason given.


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Message 100 of 150 (667440)
07-07-2012 4:31 PM
Reply to: Message 98 by Dr Adequate
07-07-2012 1:53 PM


Re: Accuracy
Bring on the plague of locusts, we deserve it.

Of course you do.

Wouldn't it be nice if you could get an itemized list of plague avoidance costs and run the numbers to see which ones you might just want to suck up.

My mistake, Oni's numbers are good. I assumed it was an annual figure.


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Message 101 of 150 (667441)
07-07-2012 4:32 PM
Reply to: Message 99 by onifre
07-07-2012 3:16 PM


Re: Accuracy
My mistake Oni, carry on.
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Buzsaw
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Message 102 of 150 (667442)
07-07-2012 4:34 PM
Reply to: Message 89 by jar
07-06-2012 9:22 PM


Re: Evidence Pertaining To Israel & Sodomy ]
jar writes:

Please provide evidence that the US has thrown Israel under the bus or that the US has legitimized sodomy

Yes or no, Jar. An official recognition of [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/...de-us-troops_n_1639658.http] gay rights day not only in the nation's Pentagon and the nation's' White House is equivalent to legitimizing sodomy.

When Benjamin Netanyahu visited our White House he was neither invited to dine with the president. His entrance into the White House was through the back door.

http://www.americanthinker.com/...israel_pronouncements.http

President Obama who has bowed to the king of a Muslim nation, Iraq and visited numerous Islamic national celebrities has never visited Israel, promising aid to some.

http://search.mywebsearch.com/mywebsearch/redirect.http

Most Islamic nations hate Israel and vow to destroy her.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six-Day_War

Edited by Buzsaw, : fix link


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Someone wisely said something ;ike, "Before fooling with a fool, make sure the fool is a fool." :)


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Message 103 of 150 (667443)
07-07-2012 4:45 PM
Reply to: Message 102 by Buzsaw
07-07-2012 4:34 PM


Re: Evidence Pertaining To Israel & Sodomy ]
No, finally recognizing same sex marriage is NOT legitimizing sodomy; marriage has absolutely nothing to do with sodomy.

Sorry not inviting someone to dinner is not "throwing Israel under the bus".

In case you hadn't noticed, the "Six Day War" was in 1967, not during Obama's Presidency. By the way, that was also when Israel attacked a US Navy vessel killing 34 and wounding 170 crew members.

Evidence Buz, do you know what evidence is?


Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Message 104 of 150 (667449)
07-07-2012 5:47 PM
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07-07-2012 4:34 PM


Re: Evidence Pertaining To Israel & Sodomy ]
President Obama who has bowed to the king of a Muslim nation, Iraq

Iraq has a king now?

When Benjamin Netanyahu visited our White House he was neither invited to dine with the president. His entrance into the White House was through the back door.

Quite so. In fact they'd have managed to hush up the visit altogether if the White House hadn't made the fatal mistake of releasing photographs of it.

Netanyahu was so outraged by the snub that he said: "I want to thank you also for the warm hospitality that you've shown me and my delegation", and continued this angry outburst by remarking: "The alliance between our two countries is deeply appreciated by me and by everyone in Israel [...] I thank you very much, Mr. President, for your friendship."

Clearly Obama's sins against Israel are so egregious that our entire nation deserves all the plagues that afflicted Egypt, and one can only wonder at why the entirely fictitious boogeyman who lives in your head has as yet withheld his imaginary hand.

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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Message 105 of 150 (667452)
07-07-2012 6:11 PM
Reply to: Message 97 by ringo
07-07-2012 12:04 PM


Re: PLEASE EVERYONE, READ THE TITLE & OP
ringo writes:

But I don't want to see an Arab Holocaust either.

When has the tiny nation of Israel (I say the nation of Israel) ever in it's history sought to conquer another nation beside it's own nation, Israel for occupation?


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