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crashfrog Member (Idle past 1489 days) Posts: 19762 From: Silver Spring, MD Joined:
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(And please, rather than bash me for posting it, respond to the article.) Well, if you insist. I'd start by pointing out that nearly everything Krauthammer mentions is actually domestic policy, not foreign policy. You can tell the difference because domestic policy is the stuff that happens inside US borders. Further you can ask that Google review a video on YouTube by clicking a single button that is accessible to everyone.
After nearly four years of failure, is it not now time to try a different approach? Four years of what failure? Osama bin Laden is dead; Al-Qaeda is in disarray. Zero attacks on US soil. Americans now have more trust in Democrats on foreign policy than Republicans. As much as this vile troll would like to lay events in the Middle East at Obama's feet, how is that anything more than Republicans blaming Obama for anything bad that happens, like when they blamed him for droughts in the midwest?
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3
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Coyote writes:
I think you must be talking about Mitt's speech on Libya. Indeed, that was an epic collapse. And Mitt's "47%" speech on economics was another epic collapse.A foreign policy in epic collapse. Jesus was a liberal hippie
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Here.
When asked about the voter ID law’s disenfranchisement of the 750,000 Pennsylvanians who cannot get IDs, Metcalfe cited Romney’s offhand dismissal of the 47% of the country who will never take personal responsibility and care for their lives as proof that those people don’t deserve the right to vote:
HOST: Are you absolutely convincedthat the methods to implement this law are effective and will in fact make sure no legitimate voter will be disenfranchised? METCALFE: I don’t believe any legitimate voter that actually wants to exercise that right and takes on the according responsiblity that goes with that right to secure their photo ID will be disenfranchised. As Mitt Romney said, 47% of the people that are living off the public dole, living off their neighbors’ hard work, and we have a lot of people out there that are too lazy to get up and get out there and get the ID they need. If individuals are too lazy, the state can’t fix that. |
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NoNukes Inactive Member
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Coyote writes: (And please, rather than bash me for posting it, respond to the article.) crashfrog writes: Well, if you insist. A well thought out response, but Coyote has yet to engage anyone who responds to his posts. Despite his complaints of being bashed, his posts have drawn substantive responses, but his explicitly stated position is that life is just to short to bother with discussion in a discussion group.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison. Choose silence of all virtues, for by it you hear other men's imperfections, and conceal your own. George Bernard Shaw
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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A well thought out response, but Coyote has yet to engage anyone who responds to his posts. Despite his complaints of being bashed, his posts have drawn substantive responses, but his explicitly stated position is that life is just to short to bother with discussion in a discussion group. What is it with fundies and wingers that anytime there is evidence opposing their POV, they suddenly have a persecution complex and accuse others of personal attacks? Then we find out that they have no support for the crap they posted.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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ooh-child Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 242 Joined:
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Sometimes Coyotes just howl at the moon for no apparent reason. They tend to stir up the domestic dogs up here in the mountains, but we all settle down pretty quickly and get about our general business without having to shoot the howlers.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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January 23rd, Mitt said: "I pay all the taxes that are legally required and not a dollar more. I don’t think you want someone as the candidate for president who pays more taxes than he owes."
And in August, he said "I did go back and look at my taxes, and over the past 10 years, I never paid less than 13 percent." This is interesting, because thanks to our wonderful tax code, all he owed for the 2011 tax year was 12.2% of his income. What did he do? He gave the IRS an extra quarter of a million dollars he didn't need so much, so as to be consistent with one of the things he said rather than the other.
The couple chose to deduct only $2.25 million of their charitable contributions. The reason was "to conform" to Romney's statement last month that he never paid less than 13% in income taxes over the past 10 years, Brad Malt, a lawyer who presides over the Romneys' blind trust, said in a statement. So, according to Romney, he's not the sort of person you want as candidate for President. Well, Mitt, you nailed that one. Though I'm still not sure that you understand the reason. It's actually because you're a giant douche. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: |
Herman Cain has explained that if he was the candidate, he'd have a "substantial lead" over Obama. The reason? "The reason is quite simple: I have some depth to my ideas."
This from the man who solemnly quoted the lyrics to the theme song of the Pokemon movie as the work of "a poet" and was worried that China is "trying to develop nuclear capability", something which they've had since 1964. Yeah, Herman, you're a man of real intellectual substance.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9143 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.3
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quote: http://thinkprogress.org/...an-would-redistribute-the-wealth The whole economy is going to collapse.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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ooh-child Member (Idle past 366 days) Posts: 242 Joined: |
Wisconsin's a swing state - I would find it fascinating to live in one of those areas.
What's your take on the ground, Theo? Will Obama win your electoral votes, & will it have some tug, down ticket? How's Tammy in your book?
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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onifre Member (Idle past 2973 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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After nearly four years of failure, is it not now time to try a different approach? As this essay points out, our foreign policy in the Middle East is a complete failure. Why should anyone expect anything different in a second Obama administration? Coyote, you of all people, a man so hell bent on disproving bad science when it come to creationist arguements, really believe that going from one puppet to another puppet really makes any difference to us, the regular workers of this country? Christ man, they are ALL doing the bidding of lobbyist and corporations. Why give a shit which one it is? State and local elections are all that matters. Everything else is just a bunch of rich fucks trying to gain control of the White House to fill their pockets. Why on Earth would a person as smart as you buy into this crap? - Oni
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2128 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
It is the lesser of two evils, agreed.
But one is proud of being a "community organizer" and a redistributionalist, while the other at least has some genuine accomplishments to his credit.
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xongsmith Member Posts: 2587 From: massachusetts US Joined: Member Rating: 6.5
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Oni says:
Why give a shit which one it is? Well, the women in this country might just have something to say about that. I love women.- xongsmith, 5.7d
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onifre Member (Idle past 2973 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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Well, the women in this country might just have something to say about that. I love women.
That's just media propaganda to hype up voters. Republicans aren't going to make abortion illegal dude. NO ONE needs to get rid of unwanted children more than Republican politicians. But again, it is the state votes that count for things like same sex marriage, abortion and legalizing pot. We should concern ourselves with STATE elections, that directly affect us. Not who becomes the leader of corporate America. That's just silly. Still rings true today: - Oni
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