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kofh2u
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Message 309 of 503 (678581)
11-09-2012 8:18 AM
Reply to: Message 308 by JonF
11-09-2012 7:48 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
JonF:
You've seen mine, and you've done an exceptionally poor job of responding.
Yes, the traditional interpretation of the church people comes down to us from the previous paradigms of earlier societies unprepared educationally for reading Genesis as an analogy for a flood of Modern man, Out-of-Africa.
Recent science theories which actually coined this same term because the analogy is so striking miss ed theological importance of re-visiting Genesis in this age, when our information paradigm supports exactly what the Noah's Ark tale tells us:
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kofh2u
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Message 313 of 503 (678851)
11-10-2012 9:46 PM
Reply to: Message 312 by Percy
11-10-2012 8:08 AM


Re: Bones of 22 extinct humans and the flood
If there had really been a global flood then not only would there be increased sedimentation in floodplains, there would have to be increased sedimentation in all low lying regions. That they've only found increased sedimentation in low-lying regions already cut by rivers (i.e., floodplains) means these were the typical seasonal floods experienced by floodplains and were not global.
I believe you have shown that a flood of water did not happen,...
...especially 40,000 years ago.
That would have been the moment when all other humanoids disappeared in a mass extinction.
Only the three racial stocks of the present seven genetically different types of humans now roam the earth.
This would imply that the "flood" was really a major population explosion of modern man, an Out-of-Africa emmigration, which lasted 40,000 years of "days and nights" is factually what happened.
All other man-types disappeared, and modern man flooded the earth to the tops of the mopuntains.
It would also imply that Genesis (out of necessity) had to tell the truth, couched in this metaphor-like flood talk.
Because the Ark was really the skull of Modern man, capable of carrying all the names and visions of the animals into the next age of stone:

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kofh2u
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Message 318 of 503 (679087)
11-12-2012 11:30 AM
Reply to: Message 314 by Eli
11-10-2012 10:06 PM


Re: Bones of 22 extinct humans and the flood
The 40,000 year ago "Out-of-Africa"theory which supports a massive and successful emmigration out of Africa after numerous exodus and returns as Ice Ages came and went is further supported by the most recent genetic study that claims all men living today are related to just one man, presumably this Noah type, who lived 40,000 years ago.
(ee the article about Darwin in this issue of US NEWS)
This is further suporte by the Three Racial Stock Theory...
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/threeraces.jpg[IMG]
... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG]
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... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG]
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... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG]
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... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG]
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kofh2u
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From: phila., PA
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Message 319 of 503 (679089)
11-12-2012 11:38 AM
Reply to: Message 318 by kofh2u
11-12-2012 11:30 AM


Re: Bones of 22 extinct humans and the flood
The 40,000 year ago "Out-of-Africa"theory which supports a massive and successful emmigration out of Africa after numerous exodus and returns as Ice Ages came and went is further supported by the most recent genetic study that claims all men living today are related to just one man, presumably this Noah type, who lived 40,000 years ago.
(ee the article about Darwin in this issue of US NEWS)
This is further suporte by the Three Racial Stock Theory...
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/threeraces.jpg[IMG]
... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][][]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][][]
... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][][]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][][]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/threeraces.jpg[IMG]
... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][][]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][][]
... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.
[IMG]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][][]http://kofh2u.tripod.com/7_genetic_groups_2.jpg[IMG][]

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kofh2u
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Message 320 of 503 (679091)
11-12-2012 11:42 AM


? Some quirk has messed up my posts above...
Here is my response again...
The 40,000 year ago "Out-of-Africa"theory which supports a massive and successful emmigration out of Africa after numerous exodus and returns as Ice Ages came and went is further supported by the most recent genetic study that claims all men living today are related to just one man, presumably this Noah type, who lived 40,000 years ago.
(see the article about Darwin in this issue of US NEWS)
This is further suported by the Three Racial Stock Theory...
... which would correspond to the three "sons" of Noah, Caucasian, Mongoloid, and Negroid earliest roots to the present seven genetic races on earth today.

  
kofh2u
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Message 321 of 503 (679094)
11-12-2012 11:48 AM
Reply to: Message 317 by Admin
11-11-2012 8:17 AM


Re: Moderator Request
Mr Admin,
Respectfully, it is not clear tome how one is supposed to respond to such retorts as "nonsense": or non specific criticism that anyone could levy against anyone else, such as:
"I've checked he's been both nonsensical and off-topic."
Be specific.
Ask for reponses to things that make no sense to you.
Show how it is off topic to propose the reading of Genesis as a Metaphor which then clearly parallels our present science.
It is impossible to defend against a bias and subjective opinion.
Be concrete and I will either make my case or stop posting.

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kofh2u
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From: phila., PA
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Message 323 of 503 (679221)
11-12-2012 11:59 PM
Reply to: Message 322 by Admin
11-12-2012 2:50 PM


Re: Moderator Request
[qs] This thread is about flood geology.
[qs] Bible flood, right?
The flood the is mentioned inGenesis, correct?
You are saying that this thread is about showing how rediculous the church interpretation of Genesis 6-9 is, right?
I mean there is no science about a flood.
It is all directed at the church claim of a phantom flood, one we teach and read about in Genesis.
So, if you keep me out, you propagate the idea that the Bible is ridicuous.
You fail to say that any reasonable comprehensive reader would see this is a metaphor.
The bible writer had to use the flood to expresses ideas that could not be more clearly state in ancient times because the facts are too unbelievable to have been accepted by those people of the past.
Be intellectually honest.
The discussion is about the silliness of saying there was a flood.

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