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Message 96 of 503 (676562)
10-23-2012 6:09 PM
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10-23-2012 5:50 PM


Re: Discrepancy?
What about the Jomon culture and the Egyptians?

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Message 100 of 503 (676580)
10-23-2012 7:26 PM
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10-23-2012 6:35 PM


Re: Discrepancy?
It's not a matter of what anyone believes, it is what the evidence shows. The Jomon culture lasted from 14,000 BCE until around 300 BCE.
Of course the Biblical flood has been absolutely refuted so anyone asserting it really happened is simply wrong, but this thread is about an imaginary process of "Flood Geology".
The question is how could a flood produce the evidence that we see?
How did the supposed flood miss washing Oetzi who would have been a contemporary of Adam downhill?
How did the Jomon culture continue pretty much uninterrupted by the imaginary flood?

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Message 118 of 503 (676637)
10-24-2012 1:37 PM
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10-24-2012 1:32 PM


The issue is that the required bottleneck is not there but since that fact is irrelevant and unrelated to Flood Geology maybe the most recent thread on the subject would be a better place to follow up. See No genetic bottleneck proves no global flood.
The Biblical flood stories prove that the Biblical Flood never happened.

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Message 124 of 503 (676649)
10-24-2012 2:00 PM
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10-24-2012 1:53 PM


Re: Discrepancy?
No, they are misrepresentations of what is actually there. But there are threads on that as well. I'll try to find a link for you.
Found one. See Dinosaurs and man lived together, which destroys the theory of evolution.
Edited by jar, : add link

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Message 173 of 503 (676851)
10-25-2012 1:11 PM
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10-25-2012 1:04 PM


What is flood geology?
The Biblical Flood can be disproved at any time during the existence of modern humans but that is also irrelevant to this topic and thread. The question is "What is flood geology and how can it explain what is seen?"

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Message 231 of 503 (677107)
10-26-2012 7:01 PM
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10-26-2012 6:38 PM


one year flood, a million year erruption.
The Siberian Traps were a whole series of events that went on for over a million years, the Biblical Flood supposedly lasted only about one year.
Which of the numerous Siberian Trap events correspond to the supposed Biblical Flood?

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Message 234 of 503 (677114)
10-26-2012 8:16 PM
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10-26-2012 7:53 PM


Re: one year flood, a million year erruption.
What timelines you agree with or don't agree with are irrelevant.
It's your chance to try to create an explanation that might explain what is found at any era you say is the right time for the Biblical Flood. How do you explain the geology that is present in the Siberian Traps and the layers and layers of lava flow? How do you compress the evidence into a one year period?
All you need to do is present the evidence of a mechanism that can cover over two million square kilometers in lava and produce over a million cubic kilometers of lava in a year.
But wait; there's more.
How do you explain there not being any pillow lava in the Siberian Traps?
The Biblical Flood has been totally refuted and simply never happened. But this thread is designed to let people try to explain what is seen based on the accounts in the different Biblical Flood stories. It's a chance to play "what if" and so here is another opportunity to see if you can make up someway for the Biblical Flood to create the evidence.
So here's your chance to step up to the plate.
Edited by jar, : appalin spallin

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Message 245 of 503 (677351)
10-29-2012 11:12 AM
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10-29-2012 11:09 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
Do you know the meaning of the word "flood"?

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Message 247 of 503 (677358)
10-29-2012 12:00 PM
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10-29-2012 11:53 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
The meaning is pretty simple and clear. The topic is Flood Geology.
You need to explain the mechanism for the imaginary Biblical Flood that never happened but supposedly covered everything to exclude the imaginary highland angiosperms.
So far you have presented no evidence, no model, no mechanism. nothing, nada, nyet,

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Message 253 of 503 (677384)
10-29-2012 1:24 PM
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10-29-2012 1:12 PM


Re: Bones and the flood
I need your explanation of the mechanism for the imaginary Biblical Flood that never happened but supposedly covered everything to exclude the imaginary highland angiosperms.
And of course the Biblical Flood is not considered since it has already been refuted.
The Biblical Flood never happened and anyone making such a claim is simply wrong.

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Message 305 of 503 (678506)
11-08-2012 5:55 PM
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11-08-2012 5:50 PM


Geology
But what does any of his utter nonsensical rabbit holes have to do with flood geology?
When is mindspawn ever going to address anything about how flood geology works?

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Message 342 of 503 (680235)
11-18-2012 5:31 PM
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11-18-2012 4:33 PM


If the Biblical flood stories were actually true ...
You guys seem to want to continue with this strawman argument and also seem to desire to do bible studies. If you read Genesis 6 combined with Numbers 13:33 it appears that these giants were there before and after the flood.
If that is true then it is yet more evidence that the Biblical Flood stories are false.
The Biblical flood is nonsense but here is your chance to explain HOW the mythical flood could actually create what we see today and I note that you have avoided presenting any model or Flood Geology.
How do you explain there not being any pillow lava in the Siberian Traps?
What is the Flood mechanism mechanism that can cover over two million square kilometers in lava and produce over a million cubic kilometers of lava in a year and still not produce any pillow lava?
How did the supposed flood miss washing Oetzi who would have been a contemporary of Adam downhill?
How did the Jomon culture continue pretty much uninterrupted by the imaginary flood?
Flood Geology.
Where is the model that explains the above?

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Message 351 of 503 (680389)
11-19-2012 12:20 PM
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11-19-2012 11:54 AM


Signs of the bottleneck
So you want evidence of genetic variance; well it is pretty readily available and has been since even before we knew anything about DNA and how it worked.
Consider transplants.
One reason we knew about the bottleneck in Cheetahs long before we knew about how DNA worked was that it was possible to transplant skin from one cheetah to another without rejection.
That is simply not true for humans or almost any other species of animals. There is simply too much genetic variation between individuals of ANY other species of animal for transplants to succeed without major efforts to repress rejection.
But of course, that is irrelevant to the topic and just another example of your inability to address the subject. The thread is about Flood Geology.
Here is your chance to explain how the Biblical Flood might explain what we see.

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Message 373 of 503 (680510)
11-19-2012 5:25 PM
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11-19-2012 4:53 PM


Re: Signs of the bottleneck
Yes I do believe in genetic variance and a recent cheetah bottleneck.
If so then the Biblical flood never happened.
A biblical flood would move large amounts of sediment, as found in the PT boundary.
You keep making that assertion but never provide any evidence or explain how the large amounts of sediment were produced in the first place.
Model. Flood geology.
Present a model instead of simple assertions.

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