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Coragyps
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Message 32 of 503 (673711)
09-21-2012 3:52 PM
Reply to: Message 30 by Serg-antr
09-21-2012 2:59 PM


Re: What is flood geology?
1. Its area is not tens of thousands of square kilometers.
It was roughly 160,000 km^2, before Europeans got there and drained/dissected it. Do your homework.

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Message 131 of 503 (676673)
10-24-2012 4:22 PM
Reply to: Message 126 by Dr Adequate
10-24-2012 3:10 PM


White Cliffs of Dover
Mindspawn, here's a short essay from 144 years ago that expands on Dr A's mention of chalk:
http://aleph0.clarku.edu/huxley/CE8/Chalk.html
That was written before my grandfather was born, and still explains quite plainly why your "theories" are bunk.

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Message 142 of 503 (676694)
10-24-2012 6:37 PM
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10-24-2012 6:14 PM


Regarding chalk, current rates of accumulation are not appropriate for some forms of coccolithopore which can proliferate chalk production during periods of high co2 prevalence , as per the conditions just after the PT boundary.
Evidence? What were those conditions, how high was the CO2 level, and how thick can coccolithophore soup get?
Not how thick can you imagine it: how thick can they grow without the top centimeter of water getting too opaque for light to get to the second centimeter?
How well to coccolithophores make shells when the atmospheric CO2 is at, say, 5000 ppm and the pH of the oceans is six, or the value appropriate for your chosen CO2 level?
Evidence, please. Not "well, it coulda!!"
Edited by Coragyps, : punctuation

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Message 143 of 503 (676695)
10-24-2012 6:38 PM
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10-24-2012 6:15 PM


Re: White Cliffs of Dover
Short by pre-television standards.........

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Message 177 of 503 (676872)
10-25-2012 2:41 PM
Reply to: Message 172 by mindspawn
10-25-2012 1:04 PM


And there is evidence then of a marine transgression and also rapid worldwide sedimentation occurring at various sites across earth at the P-T boundary.
And 6500 feet beneath my chair, down in the Permian and therefore beneath the P-T boundary, is the east end of the Horseshoe atoll, a buried reef made of the skeletons of various Permian critters, none of which are alive today. (The sponges were drowned in the Flood, perhaps?) The reef is about 600 feet thick here. How long do reefs take, in antedeluvian days, to grow 600 feet vertically? How many years was it, again, from Adam until Noah's 600th birthday?

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Message 178 of 503 (676874)
10-25-2012 2:47 PM
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10-25-2012 8:54 AM


Re: Chalk
Coragys I feel the burden of proof is on you in this particular matter.
I think not. You, mindspawn, made the claim "current rates of accumulation are not appropriate for some forms of coccolithopore which can proliferate chalk production during periods of high co2 prevalence , as per the conditions just after the PT boundary." What were those conditions? Were coccolithophores totally transparent then, and was seawater saturated with calcium and phosphate, with soluble nitrogen for all?
You made the claim. You trot out the evidence.
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Message 186 of 503 (676921)
10-25-2012 6:26 PM
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10-25-2012 6:03 PM


Re: Age and time...
When do you think that the Sphinx was built, and what geological era does that date correspond to ?
And was it built by humans or by Seymouria baylorensis?

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Message 208 of 503 (677062)
10-26-2012 3:28 PM
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10-26-2012 3:23 PM


Re: Bones and the flood
....its likely that the most suitable weather for humans and other mammals was in the far north at that time, now deep under the Siberian basalt.
Absolute bullshit. How do you even weave bullshit into any kind of fabric at all? Are you a politician?

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Message 213 of 503 (677070)
10-26-2012 3:59 PM
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10-26-2012 3:47 PM


Re: Bones and the flood
Just because fossils fossilize easily in swamps, does not mean they were the only animals around.
You just find me ONE fossil of something resembling a modern mammal - ANY modern mammal - in the Carboniferous. In ANY formation that's Permian or earlier.
Find me ONE example, mindspawn. Heck, find me ONE angiosperm fossil in Carboniferous coal.
No coproliths of your imagination, now: fossils.

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Message 239 of 503 (677331)
10-29-2012 9:15 AM
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10-29-2012 6:25 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
not even a hint, of them in the jungles of the Congo or Amazon today.
The antecedent for "them" is intended to be "angiosperm" here? Or did you mean "Arctic fox?"
Have you ever heard of palms? Of trees? Orchids?
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Coragyps
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Message 241 of 503 (677334)
10-29-2012 9:41 AM
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10-29-2012 9:37 AM


I don't know how we'd ever find out what happened to it,...
Obviously you never could, as the Worldwide Atheistic Geologist Cabal has already decided it must be suppressed.....

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Coragyps
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Message 248 of 503 (677363)
10-29-2012 12:15 PM
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10-29-2012 11:09 AM


Re: Bones and the flood
I don't know of any studies of the fauna /flora....
Of course you don't! You are merely Making Shit Up as you go!

"The Christian church, in its attitude toward science, shows the mind of a more or less enlightened man of the Thirteenth Century. It no longer believes that the earth is flat, but it is still convinced that prayer can cure after medicine fails." H L Mencken

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Coragyps
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Message 260 of 503 (677439)
10-29-2012 5:50 PM
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10-29-2012 1:20 PM


Re: Bones and the flood
Mindspawn:
Show me ONE FOSSIL of a nutria, or a flamingo, or a cypress tree from a Carboniferous swamp. Or broaden that: a mammal, a bird, or an angiosperm fossil from the Carboniferous. One fossil will shut my mouth.

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