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Author Topic:   Do We NEED God?
Stile
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Message 211 of 224 (797282)
01-16-2017 11:08 AM
Reply to: Message 202 by NoNukes
01-13-2017 1:23 PM


Re: Omni-God
NoNukes writes:
In particular, there cannot simultaneously be free will and free action and yet have a universe where no one can elect to do evil.
Why not?
I suppose it depends on where you put the limits on "free will."
Free will certainly does not mean you can choose to do anything.
Since I cannot choose to levitate.
I cannot choose to walk through a brick wall.
I cannot choose to force someone to respect or love me.
Do I still have free will?
What if evil was restricted, but you could still freely choose many different various good things?
Where is this invisible line that removes free will when evil goes away?
Where is it right now?
You can personally define free will to mean "the choice between good and evil."
But, well, that sounds like a personal decision.
Given a choice between worlds where those two concepts are the choice, I would choose to live in the universe with free will.
To me, that depends if I get a life currently similar to mine, or if I get killed as an innocent baby.
But, assuming I get a life similar to my current one... I would still choose a world with "slightly less evil" over than this one no matter what. A world with, say, no rapes of little girls. All other evil remains.
Would that not be favourable than our current world?
Would both still have "free will?"
Do we have "free will" now?
(These questions are meant to understand your current-understanding of the term 'free will').
Edited by Stile, : Attempting some clarification and spelling corrections.

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