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Jazzns
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Message 1 of 84 (673883)
09-24-2012 4:02 PM


This is a link that is on the front page of conservapedia at the moment.

http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/...onist-censored.html

I personally think it is funny that they measure success by how boring it gets when creationists don't show up to defend themselves.

Edited by Admin, : Fix title.


If we long for our planet to be important, there is something we can do about it. We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers. --Carl Sagan

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Percy
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Message 2 of 84 (673894)
09-24-2012 4:57 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jazzns
09-24-2012 4:02 PM


Gee, nice to be mentioned, even if only in an obituary!

His graph seems accurate, seems to track the decline in messages posted. It would be interesting to see a graph that went all the back to 2001.

Any guesses as to the creationist he quotes who says he was banned? Sounds like ForEverYoung, except that he's not suspended anymore.

--Percy


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Jazzns
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Message 3 of 84 (673895)
09-24-2012 5:16 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Percy
09-24-2012 4:57 PM


I don't pay too much attention but I don't think the ban was recent. It must be someone from the past. Faith?

What weird is that it seems like all most people have to do to be let back in is ask.


If we long for our planet to be important, there is something we can do about it. We make our world significant by the courage of our questions and by the depth of our answers. --Carl Sagan

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NoNukes
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Message 4 of 84 (673904)
09-24-2012 6:04 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Percy
09-24-2012 4:57 PM


quote:
As for EvC Forum, I am banned. Percy will not reinstate me. If the Forum is dead then there is no mystery as to why. Without Creationists there can be no forum.

Assuming that this is a recent banning, there is a poster who fits some definition of being irrevocably banned, and who is notorious for claiming victory after each drubbing. The poster I have in mind is not completely banned, but he has not posted in about a month.

I cannot recall any other Creationist who could claim to be banned during the past few years.

Some guy named Ray Martinez was pretty noisy about being banned and I used to see his name turn up in searches. But that was quite some time ago, and before my time here.


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ProtoTypical
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Message 5 of 84 (673910)
09-24-2012 6:59 PM
Reply to: Message 1 by Jazzns
09-24-2012 4:02 PM


Is there any way to leave a comment there? I tried but was refused under my aim account and open user.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 6 of 84 (673912)
09-24-2012 7:07 PM
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09-24-2012 4:02 PM


Meanwhile over a conservapedia free and open debate is flourishing. It's reminiscent of the golden age of Athens. No, wait, I mean Stalin's Russia, I keep getting those two mixed up.
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Jazzns
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Message 7 of 84 (673913)
09-24-2012 7:11 PM
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09-24-2012 6:59 PM


I have no idea. I wouldn't trust my comments to be left up on there anyway.
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Dr Adequate
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Message 8 of 84 (673914)
09-24-2012 7:16 PM
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09-24-2012 6:59 PM


Is there any way to leave a comment there? I tried but was refused under my aim account and open user.

Apparently not. I guess this is what they call "irony".


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JonF
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Message 9 of 84 (673915)
09-24-2012 7:22 PM
Reply to: Message 4 by NoNukes
09-24-2012 6:04 PM


Some guy named Ray Martinez was pretty noisy about being banned

Ray posted here (and on several other forums e.g. Theology Web) as Willowtree. That was before he discovered talk.origins where anything goes.

I seem to remember that he was banned, but I could be wrong.


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JonF
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Message 10 of 84 (673916)
09-24-2012 7:24 PM


the banned creationist?
Simple? He wasn't so much a creationist as a wide-ranging loony. IIRC he posted under several different nyms. But I think he was banned.
  
subbie
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Message 11 of 84 (673931)
09-24-2012 11:00 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Percy
09-24-2012 4:57 PM


Gee, nice to be mentioned, even if only in an obituary!

We should have a wake! Since there seem to be so many ghosts still haunting the place, I suggest October 31 for the date.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung


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Minnemooseus
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Message 12 of 84 (674025)
09-25-2012 10:11 PM
Reply to: Message 2 by Percy
09-24-2012 4:57 PM


There is a follow-up posting at questionevolution.blogspot.com
http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/...rum-admits-his.html

The headline:

quote:
Evolutionist at EvC Forum admits his debate forum is a ghost town! Try banning fewer creationists when they win debate after debate! We challenge Percy to a debate!

Moose

ABE: evcforum.net now has it's own Conservapedia page:

http://conservapedia.com/EvC_Forum

Edited by Minnemooseus, : ABE.


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NoNukes
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Message 13 of 84 (674030)
09-25-2012 10:34 PM
Reply to: Message 12 by Minnemooseus
09-25-2012 10:11 PM


Re: There is a follow-up posting at questionevolution.blogspot.com
I see that they have also challenged Percy to a live oral debate.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

The apathy of the people is enough to make every statue leap from its pedestal and hasten the resurrection of the dead. William Lloyd Garrison.

It's not too late to register to vote. State Registration Deadlines


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Message 14 of 84 (674031)
09-25-2012 10:53 PM
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09-25-2012 10:11 PM


Re: There is a follow-up posting at questionevolution.blogspot.com
He seems determined to uphold the stereotype of creationists as liars and halfwits. This is unfair to the honest and intelligent creationists --- both of them.
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Coyote
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Message 15 of 84 (674033)
09-25-2012 11:18 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by NoNukes
09-25-2012 10:34 PM


Re: There is a follow-up posting at questionevolution.blogspot.com
I see that they have also challenged Percy to a live oral debate.

That's a standard creationist trick, and it means nothing.

Science is conducted through scientific journals and professional meetings, with lots of peer review and time to do research and consider the evidence.

Creationists love oral debates because showmanship, rather than scholarship, can be impressive and carry the day with a lot of their supporters.

Creationists hate written debates because they require evidence, logic, and lots of references. Showmanship has no place there, and the glib response can be carefully examined and rebutted.

So issue a counter challenge: Come here and engage in a written debate providing solid references for any claims, and follow the scientific method.

You'll hear crickets...


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

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