About New Lamarckian Synthesis Theory

If the environment was actually causing as opposed to filtering changes then the same changes should show up in all of a population living in the same environment; however evidence refutes that position.As was pointed out in Message 57:

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There is a population of mice.

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The mice have baby mice.

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Not all the copies are perfect, some have mutations.

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Some baby mice are tan.

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Some baby mice are dark gray.

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Some baby mice are bright pink with yellow and green stripes.

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The baby mice that are tan go out to eat and play. Those that stay on the tan rocks find lots of food and have fun playing. They grow up and marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty tan baby mice.

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Those that play on the dark gray rock though get eaten by predators and don't get to play or have fun or grow up to marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty tan baby mice.

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The baby mice that are dark gray go out to eat and play. Those that stay on the dark gray rocks find lots of food and have fun playing. They grow up and marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty dark gray baby mice.

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Those that play on the tan rock though get eaten by predators and don't get to play or have fun or grow up to marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty dark gray baby mice.

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The baby mice that are bright pink with yellow and green stripes go out to eat and play. They get eaten.

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Soon there are two populations of mice, tan mice and dark gray mice and bad little mice are told, "If you do that again you will turn pink with yellow and green stripes and get eaten! And it will make you go blind too!".

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It is a matter of filtering, not causation. The mutations continue and there will still be dark gray and tan mice born that will be filtered by the environment.

If you said that I would laugh, laugh loudly and heartily. And I presented the evidence and and you even quoted part of my evidence. But did you actually read it? Nonsense, utter nonsense.Let me repeat the example for you.

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There is a population of mice.

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The mice have baby mice.

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Not all the copies are perfect, some have mutations.

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Some baby mice are tan.

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Some baby mice are dark gray.

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Some baby mice are bright pink with yellow and green stripes.

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The baby mice that are tan go out to eat and play. Those that stay on the tan rocks find lots of food and have fun playing. They grow up and marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty tan baby mice.

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Those that play on the dark gray rock though get eaten by predators and don't get to play or have fun or grow up to marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty tan baby mice.

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The baby mice that are dark gray go out to eat and play. Those that stay on the dark gray rocks find lots of food and have fun playing. They grow up and marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty dark gray baby mice.

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Those that play on the tan rock though get eaten by predators and don't get to play or have fun or grow up to marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty dark gray baby mice.

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The baby mice that are bright pink with yellow and green stripes go out to eat and play. They get eaten.

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Soon there are two populations of mice, tan mice and dark gray mice and bad little mice are told, "If you do that again you will turn pink with yellow and green stripes and get eaten! And it will make you go blind too!".

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The environment did absolutely nothing to cause the mutations.

I did provide evidence just above but will happily repeat it yet again.

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There is a population of mice.

​

The mice have baby mice.

​

Not all the copies are perfect, some have mutations.

​

Some baby mice are tan.

​

Some baby mice are dark gray.

​

Some baby mice are bright pink with yellow and green stripes.

​

The baby mice that are tan go out to eat and play. Those that stay on the tan rocks find lots of food and have fun playing. They grow up and marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty tan baby mice.

​

Those that play on the dark gray rock though get eaten by predators and don't get to play or have fun or grow up to marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty tan baby mice.

​

The baby mice that are dark gray go out to eat and play. Those that stay on the dark gray rocks find lots of food and have fun playing. They grow up and marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty dark gray baby mice.

​

Those that play on the tan rock though get eaten by predators and don't get to play or have fun or grow up to marry the mouse next door and have lots of pretty dark gray baby mice.

​

The baby mice that are bright pink with yellow and green stripes go out to eat and play. They get eaten.

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Soon there are two populations of mice, tan mice and dark gray mice and bad little mice are told, "If you do that again you will turn pink with yellow and green stripes and get eaten! And it will make you go blind too!".

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Mice had baby meeces that were both tan and dark gray in the same litter.

There is clear indications that mutations are not random; all the puppies or kittens in a litter are identical since they were all subject to the same environmental regulation. Now if there was a litter of kittens where one had a white paw but the others had white ears or a litter of puppies where some were brown and some were brown and white you might be able to make a case for randomness. Good thing that never happens.

You have no thesis, hardly a hypothesis.How do you determine which are guided mutations?If the environment is guiding mutations why did one kitten have a white paw while another had a black tip on its tail?Edited by jar, : fix sub-title and add question