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JonF
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Message 451 of 515 (779776)
03-08-2016 10:24 AM
Reply to: Message 450 by New Cat's Eye
03-08-2016 8:59 AM


Re: This isn't Facebook, and we don't want ads, JonF
The story was posted in many places. It's a true story. I saw no evidence of issues with the link I posted.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 452 of 515 (779792)
03-08-2016 11:10 AM
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03-08-2016 10:24 AM


Re: This isn't Facebook, and we don't want ads, JonF
The story was posted in many places. It's a true story. I saw no evidence of issues with the link I posted.

I'm not talking about the story that you linked to, I'm talking about the message that you posted here at EvC: Message 154

The issue is that your Message 154 is click-bait. Here it is again (in its entirety):

One of the occupiers is suing the gummint for literally being a tool of Satan. And much, much more. Of course no Federal judge or lawyer is empowered to hear the case. You will not believe the damages she wants!

Oregon militant accuses feds of committing works of the devil'

From wiki:

quote:
Clickbait headlines typically aim to exploit the "curiosity gap", providing just enough information to make the reader curious, but not enough to satisfy their curiosity without clicking through to the linked content.

You even copied the click-bait style of Facebook with your "You will not believe the damages she wants!".

I'd just hate to see this place get all shitty like Facebook, and we should all hold ourselves to a quality of posts that is higher than that.

Just don't be an ad and post click-bait. It's disgusting and this is not the place for that.

As I said in my original complaint:

quote:
You should have just made you point and you should have just told us how much she wants. You should not bait us into clicking on your link, that is some serious bullshit right there.

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Theodoric
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Message 453 of 515 (779808)
03-08-2016 12:32 PM
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03-08-2016 11:10 AM


Re: This isn't Facebook, and we don't want ads, JonF
that is some serious bullshit right there.

Or more like a tempest in a teapot.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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PaulK
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Message 454 of 515 (780919)
03-27-2016 5:01 PM


Troll alert
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Coyote
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Message 455 of 515 (781508)
04-04-2016 8:57 PM


I prophesy...
I prophesy that Starlight will not be with us for long.

His posting style is very much counter to the forum rules.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.


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Phat
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Message 456 of 515 (781510)
04-04-2016 9:00 PM
Reply to: Message 455 by Coyote
04-04-2016 8:57 PM


Re: I prophesy...
We are aware of his violations, but being a new member we are giving him an opportunity to explain himself. The forum is about Evolution vs Creationism.

A Creationist must be given the opportunity to explain how and why they believe what they do and how they understand concepts such as facts vs fantasy, belief versus evidence, and whether they believe that God can coexist with Science.

Edited by Phat, : articulation


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain

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Message 457 of 515 (781514)
04-04-2016 9:04 PM
Reply to: Message 456 by Phat
04-04-2016 9:00 PM


Re: I prophesy...
It doesn't help Phat, when you give him permission to violate rules such as discussing religious beliefs in the science forums. If he continues one sentence drive bys and refuses to elaborate on what evidence he is using I will shut him down.
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jar
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Message 458 of 515 (781519)
04-04-2016 9:10 PM
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04-04-2016 9:04 PM


Re: I prophesy...
Please reconsider, remember that such folk have no other tools. They are incapable of providing evidence and we need to keep pointing that out but it is unreasonable to expect them to be able to do the impossible.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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Phat
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Message 459 of 515 (781520)
04-04-2016 9:11 PM
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04-04-2016 9:04 PM


Re: I prophesy...
I understand our rules. Im just giving him some rope. He can either choose to lasso the moon or hang himself. If we never gave any creationist a chance to scientifically prove creationism, we would have nothing here but evolutionists.

Give him a couple of days at least.
Add by edit: We also have the option to insist he talk about science in a belief forum. Would that help keep our science forums pure?

Edited by Phat, : having tea with the queen


Chance as a real force is a myth. It has no basis in reality and no place in scientific inquiry. For science and philosophy to continue to advance in knowledge, chance must be demythologized once and for all. RC Sproul
"A lie can travel half way around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." Mark Twain

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Faith
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Message 460 of 515 (781529)
04-04-2016 10:41 PM
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04-04-2016 9:11 PM


Re: I prophesy...
In my opinion he's way past any legitimate reason for continuing to tolerate him. He has no intention of debating, he's here to make trouble. Isn't that the definition of a troll? I've never seen anyone fit the description so well.
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Tanypteryx
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Message 461 of 515 (781810)
04-07-2016 8:29 PM


Clean up needed all over the place
The time has come for someone to encourage Faith to grow up.

Message 81

Message 83

Message 62

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What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Faith
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Message 462 of 515 (781812)
04-07-2016 8:33 PM
Reply to: Message 461 by Tanypteryx
04-07-2016 8:29 PM


A couple of corrections and an apology
Oh suspend me please. I wish I could make EvC disappear. The people who need to be cleaned up are the ones lying about me, edge and the large winged insect, could also add jar and Dr. A and Paul K and some others, but nobody here will clean THEM up, they represent the Status Quo that is all that matters at EvC. They can lie and lie and lie and pat themselves on the back and nobody wqill ever do anything to stop them. Only me.

ABE: Responding to Percy's post below about how you can't lie about facts: that's pretty nave. You can certainly misrepresent facts like anything else. But I am objecting to lying about ME: They are lying about things like my supposedly "denying" evidence for one thing, which gets said mostly on the other thread about why EvC isn't getting many creationists any more. No, I have a different view of the evidence, I'm not denying anything. I realize, however, that this pernicious fiction will persist no matter what I say.

Also have to add here that Percy insists on the rule that I can't assume original horizontality any more because of that little experiment we did that showed it is possible for a layer to form on a low slope in a plastic container. I wish I had never agreed to that because Original Horizontality is a fundamental principle of stratigraphy, such an experiment isn't a trustworthy falsification because it's on too small a scale; and my arguments depend on the principle. The last one we argued about, the road cut in New York, was obviously originally horizontal whether a layer could form on such a mild slope or not. There are other clues to its original horizontality. And that being the case the gneiss beneath was pushed up, the strata were not deposited on top of it, and that is evidence for the young earth.

Besides making the above edits, I am also here to apologize for the name calling I always fall into when angry. Not the anger itself, though I'm over it now, because I'm objecting to a deceitful spirit which deserves anger, but the namecalling -- I'm sorry about that.

Bye again.
/abe

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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Tanypteryx
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Message 463 of 515 (781827)
04-07-2016 10:44 PM


Message 72

Faith writes:

Yes I'm being rude. I can even get ruder. You deserve the same treatment for your smug lamebrained misrepresentation in this post and so many others. I'm very happy to disrupt this slanderfest if at all possible.

I think Faith needs a timeout.....in a corner....and someone should check her meds.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Faith
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Message 464 of 515 (781828)
04-07-2016 11:03 PM
Reply to: Message 463 by Tanypteryx
04-07-2016 10:44 PM


Crybaby. You needn't fear, I'll get punished eventually, I always do. Then you can feel good in your smug self-importance, securely safe from the Mad Creationist.
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Message 465 of 515 (781843)
04-08-2016 7:43 AM
Reply to: Message 462 by Faith
04-07-2016 8:33 PM


Re: Clean up needed all over the place
Faith writes:

They can lie and lie and lie and pat themselves on the back...

One can't lie about the facts of the world - they are out there and readily checked. You need to bring the facts supporting your position to people's attention. Continuing in the manner of your posts here and as you have been recently in other threads is a significant distraction to discussion and should stop.

Please, no discussion on this.


--Percy
EvC Forum Director

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