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Message 586 of 607 (808557)
05-11-2017 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 584 by Admin
05-11-2017 9:20 AM


Re: Davidjay answers all questions, evolutionists answer none.
And then, subsequent to your post above Percy, we get this from David:

In which science course did they talk about bats turning into people....

This constant misrepresentation by Davidjay, of what he is told time and time and time again is what evolution says, can now surely only be characterised as deliberate lying.


Could there be any greater conceit, than for someone to believe that the universe has to be simple enough for them to be able to understand it ?

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Message 587 of 607 (808561)
05-11-2017 1:10 PM
Reply to: Message 585 by Faith
05-11-2017 12:54 PM


Re: There is no need to call people liars
Taq uses the word "lie" in only Message 62, and it seems to be because you said that "mutations are the source of variation" is not a statement of the ToE. While I disapprove of Taq's vocabulary, you do appear to be making a misstatement of fact. Maybe you meant something else?

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Message 588 of 607 (808563)
05-11-2017 1:15 PM
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Re: Davidjay answers all questions, evolutionists answer none.
Davidjay continues to run amuck Message 974

quote:
Chir means bat, CHir stated that bats are our primates ancestors, and three other stupid evolutionaries said the same thing.
Its the newest theory of a theory that is totally out of control...

Go ahead Chir, state you never siad we came from bats, or bats are our ancestors or bats preceeded primates or were first on the branch. Whatever semantics you choose, go aheasd and deny, you ever said it.


Passed time for this troll to be gone. He adds no value to any discussions here.


What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy

The reason that we have the scientific method is because common sense isn't reliable. -- Taq


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Message 589 of 607 (808887)
05-14-2017 11:59 AM


Another failed Davidjay thread proposal
Davidjay wants a new thread (Message 1) on "Eurachondra" -- he can't even spell "Euarchonta" correctly!

A scientific illiterate, and he wants to lecture scientists on science?????

What a joke! He's nothing but a troll.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 590 of 607 (808901)
05-14-2017 4:55 PM
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05-14-2017 11:59 AM


Re: Another failed Davidjay thread proposal
Davidjay wants a new thread (Message 1) on "Eurachondra" -- he can't even spell "Euarchonta" correctly!

A scientific illiterate, and he wants to lecture scientists on science?????

And he appears to be making a similar mistake with tree shrews that he made with bats, plus a more accurate designation for common ancestor is Boreoeutheria

sigh. all that digging into the cladograms and descent diagrams gone for naught ...

Edited by RAZD, : .

Edited by RAZD, : ..


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Message 591 of 607 (808960)
05-15-2017 8:59 AM
Reply to: Message 590 by RAZD
05-14-2017 4:55 PM


Re: Why the fear in explaining treeshrew evolution ?
No, its your theory that four of you agreed on, that humans came from treeshrews or the E word you made up....

Its a basic of your theory that we evolved from a branch in the past.

Why do you complain about answering questions about it. I didn;t make it up, its all over the internet and evolutionists around the world believe it.

Why are you so afraid of explaining it....

Its a discussion problem, evolutionists refuse to answer questions ?


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 592 of 607 (808969)
05-15-2017 9:41 AM
Reply to: Message 591 by Davidjay
05-15-2017 8:59 AM


Re: Why the fear in explaining treeshrew evolution ?
Its a discussion problem, evolutionists refuse to answer questions ?

Perhaps we are getting tired of feeding a troll?


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

In the name of diversity, college student demands to be kept in ignorance of the culture that made diversity a value--StultisTheFool

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1

"Multiculturalism" demands that the US be tolerant of everything except its own past, culture, traditions, and identity.

Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other points of view--William F. Buckley Jr.


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Message 593 of 607 (808973)
05-15-2017 9:47 AM
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05-15-2017 9:41 AM


Re: Why the fear in explaining treeshrew evolution ?
You dont feed me any answers and just go straight to name calling. And besides I am not a troll, answer objectively and not subjectively.

But thanks for illustrating my point, that evolutionists refuse to discuss objectively.

Much appreciated


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Message 594 of 607 (808985)
05-15-2017 10:57 AM
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05-15-2017 9:47 AM


Re: Why the fear in explaining treeshrew evolution ?
(1) this is not a discussion thread
(2) debate not done with one thread against another
(3) you are not the only one to have proposed threads refused
(4) it seems to me that A good summary of so called human evolution. is a perfectly valid thread to discuss human evolution, with the benefit that his issue is already being discussed objectively by "evolutionists" (scientifically informed people), see Message 99: I can point you to where the ancestors of modern tree shrews come into the picture if you have trouble finding it.

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Message 595 of 607 (809012)
05-15-2017 1:32 PM
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05-15-2017 8:59 AM


see response already made
see Message 104

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Message 596 of 607 (809152)
05-16-2017 12:33 PM


Cats eye is out of control.... and using the F word continuously

http://www.evcforum.net/dm.php?control=page&t=17167&mpp=1...

No, fuck you. I'll type whatever the fuck I want.

Message 143 and beyond....

Please moderate his language

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolutyionists are used to forcing their theory on students and scientists. They are not used to answering any questions on this theory, because it is their religion. And as a religion it must be accepted by faith.... It is not science and it is not logical or rational and has no facts behind it. Evolution is a con and a LIE. A big one, but because it is forced on the gullible and on students, they must accept it. This their modus operandi...and so when faced with sane biological opposition, they can only be subjective rather than objective.

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Message 597 of 607 (809154)
05-16-2017 12:54 PM
Reply to: Message 596 by Davidjay
05-16-2017 12:33 PM


Hi Davidjay,

There's nothing in the Forum Guidelines about language, but here are some guidelines that you're violating:

  1. Follow all moderator requests.

  2. Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.

  3. Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.

  4. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references.

  5. Avoid any form of misrepresentation.

  6. Always treat other members with respect. Argue the position, not the person. Avoid abusive, harassing and invasive behavior. Avoid needling, hectoring and goading tactics.

Follow these guidelines and it will make moderation of threads easier.


--Percy
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Message 598 of 607 (809306)
05-17-2017 6:36 PM
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05-16-2017 12:54 PM


Percy, you have decided that HEREIN on EVC that there is no language Rule, and hence all language is acceptable is deplorable and different from almost all other discussion boards

. This even though your written Rules NUMBER 10 states clearly..

10 The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.
Usually, in a well-conducted debate, speakers are either emotionally uncommitted or can preserve sufficient detachment to maintain a coolly academic approach.

Consewquently in your evolutionary discussion board, you deem it civil, for your evolutionary posters to say,

Kiss My Ass, and Fuck you, I can write whatever I fucking want
to their opposition, just because they are frustrated and losing a debate. It shows you are bias, Percy.

This is an evolution discussion board, and you make your judgment callsit bias for your espoused theory of evolution, as if it is scientific and as if creation is not. You disallow topics and discussions like the Origins of Evolution, Existence of 'so-called' Benefical Mutations, even disallowing myself to start 'Bible Verses against Evolution'. All this under the excuse that I can't discuss topics because I dont agree with what evolutionists say, and what you believe. Sorry thats bias and untrue

Lets detail your violation and violations Percy.. by going to your poor and bias judgment call.

[qs]

Hi Davidjay,
There's nothing in the Forum Guidelines about language, but here are some guidelines that you're violating:
1. Follow all moderator requests.
2. Please stay on topic for a thread. Open a new thread for new topics.
4. Points should be supported with evidence and/or reasoned argumentation. Address rebuttals through the introduction of additional evidence or by enlarging upon the argument. Do not repeat previous points without further elaboration. Avoid bare assertions.
5. Bare links with no supporting discussion should be avoided. Make the argument in your own words and use links as supporting references.
8. Avoid any form of misrepresentation.
10. Always treat other members with respect. Argue the position, not the person. Avoid abusive, harassing and invasive behavior. Avoid needling, hectoring and goading tactics.
Follow these guidelines and it will make moderation of threads easier.

10...The sincerely held beliefs of other members deserve your respect. Please keep discussion civil. Argue the position, not the person.

When Cats Eye states.

Fuck you, kiss my Ass
to me, it is not civil nor respectful even though you have decided it is respectful and civil and according to your rules, for your evolutionists. I differ, but understand why evolutionists need your protection in their losing ways and losing debates. They can;t handle debate and discussions because they are use to intimidation and force rather than explanations and facts.

Jesus said and will be judging you because of what you wrote HERE and for trying to intimidate me into compliance, and forced agreement with your evolutionary religious theory.

By your words, you shall be justified and by your words you shall be condemned. (John 6)

Your decision to ban me or suspend me, therefore is definitely a bias decision, as have been all your other ones against me, against the Lord and against the Bible and against His Science.

Your Choice and Your Responsibility

In His Continued Service

David

Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


Evolutyionists are used to forcing their theory on students and scientists. They are not used to answering any questions on this theory, because it is their religion. And as a religion it must be accepted by faith.... It is not science and it is not logical or rational and has no facts behind it. Evolution is a con and a LIE. A big one, but because it is forced on the gullible and on students, they must accept it. This their modus operandi...and so when faced with sane biological opposition, they can only be subjective rather than objective.

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Message 599 of 607 (809324)
05-17-2017 7:34 PM
Reply to: Message 598 by Davidjay
05-17-2017 6:36 PM


Davidjay is back and lying again
Evolution is a racist doctrine, Message 324: First they say primates came from bats, then tree shrews

And here he is whining again about bad treatment. Poor baby. The irony of complaining about not being treated with respect ... it burns.

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Message 600 of 607 (809379)
05-18-2017 9:03 AM
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05-17-2017 6:36 PM


Hi Davidjay,

I have suspended you again for purposefully and persistently misstating what people say, see Message 329. You're heading for permanent suspension if you don't change your discussion style.


--Percy
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