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Author Topic:   Ann Coulter (Is she hateful?)
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Message 84 of 274 (679110)
11-12-2012 12:55 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by foreveryoung
11-11-2012 9:22 PM


Name calling or not name calling has nothing whatsoever to do with christianity.
Let me guess, Matthew 5:21-24 isn't in your bible?
quote:
But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, 'Raca,' is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
No, Sarah would not be upset. She knows exactly what Ann means by "retard" and whom it is directed toward. She also knows that Ann would never even dream of saying what some liberals have said about her down syndrome grandchild. Now, that is downright nasty, hateful mockery. "retard" is a common word in english slang and Sarah is not hung up on poltically correct usage of words.
quote:
The Obama Administration’s Chief of Staff scolded participants, calling them, F---ing retarded, according to several participants, as reported in the Wall Street Journal.
Just as we’d be appalled if any public figure of Rahm’s stature ever used the N-word or other such inappropriate language, Rahm’s slur on all God’s children with cognitive and developmental disabilities and the people who love them is unacceptable, and it’s heartbreaking. -- Sarah Palin
source
Of course, that was when a Democrat did it. When someone batting for the same team does it, I don't know what her reaction will be (silence, it seems, for the moment).
It was the president of the college who loudly protested the invitation from the republican club at the college.
I'm not sure how penning an open letter constitutes, 'loud protestation', so perhaps you have more info than me on this subject?
It was this protest that prompted the club to retract the invitation.
Well, technically, it prompted them to research Ann Coulter more, and upon so doing, they decided to retract the invitation:
quote:
Looking at the concerns raised about Ms. Coulter, many of them reasonable, we have determined that some of her comments do not represent the ideals of the College Republicans and are inconsistent with both our organization’s mission and the University’s. We regret that we failed to thoroughly research her before announcing; that is our error and we do not excuse ourselves for it
You don't see that the republican club caving into pressure from the the President of Fordham is exactly equivalent to Fordham banning Coulter?
So no we've established that you are calling the spokesperson for the Republican Club a liar - the next step is asking for the evidence to support your hypothesis that the club 'caved to pressure', presumably having to lie under duress. Or does it just suit your purposes to believe that's what must have happened?

Is Ann Coulter hateful? Maybe, I wouldn't know. I believe she is, or at least has been, quite the influence in American discourse, but here in the UK she is practically unheard of. All I know is from the occasional time she says or does something that makes it onto whatever corners of the blogosphere or the various fora of the 'net I happen to be moving across. And that's generally not good.
America does have itself a serious culture war going on, and Ann Coulter certainly seems a competent warrior for the 'other side'. My impression however, seems to be that her influence is waning and I can't help but think that the Obama-is-a-retard comment was an attempt on her part to still be considered relevant.

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Message 88 of 274 (679122)
11-12-2012 2:48 PM
Reply to: Message 85 by foreveryoung
11-12-2012 2:10 PM


Let me guess, you have no idea how to refute my point?
It's too early to tell, you didn't address the alleged refutations.
How in the world, does that bible verse refute my claim that name calling is not what disqualifies you as being a christian?
I wasn't addressing your claim that name calling is not what disqualifies you as being a Christian. If you had made that claim, I would have agreed with it. I was just pointing out that Christianity does indeed have something to say on the matter of getting angry to the point of name calling, so saying it has 'nothing whatsoever to do with christianity' is just not true. I would agree that Christian teachings don't spend a lot of time on name calling, but its not so absent as to say that it is 'nothing whatsoever to do with' it.

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Message 95 of 274 (679140)
11-12-2012 4:14 PM
Reply to: Message 90 by foreveryoung
11-12-2012 3:20 PM


Name calling is neither Christian nor buddhist or muslim or whatever. It is a human behavior shared by all.
Yes indeed. But when someone says '{Do} you consider the kind of name calling the GOP does to be Christian?' what they are asking is is it a trait that is acceptable in Christianity? 'Is it the Christian thing to do?', Not, 'is this behaviour unique to Christians?'
Is the reason you did not address the other points I raised (in Message 84) because you have conceded them? Or were they just insufficiently interesting to you?

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Message 116 of 274 (679172)
11-12-2012 7:17 PM
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11-12-2012 4:44 PM


I haven't responded to them because there are a plethora of posts addressed to me and actually I only read your first line. I haven't even read the rest of your post. I can only stand to read just so much of your guys posts on here. I just randomly light my eyes on something and I usually can't go very far before I have to respond. That was the case here. As you can see, just one point will go on and on and on and on. Just think what would happen if we engaged on every point you brought up? You guys seem to think I concede points because I don't address them. There are a million such points (hyperbole) directed toward me. You guys get just a few points directed SOLELY at you on a daily basis. Feel fortunate that I responded to you at all.
I do feel fortunate - do you feel fortunate that I responded to you? I think perhaps you should. After all, I spent considerably more time responding to you, than you did to me (that isn't a criticism, just a straight observation, I appreciate there are a variety of factors that explain this). I think we're at a suitable place to go on to discuss other things, should you so desire.
If you don't want to go back and address any of the other things I said, perhaps you could point me at any online non conservative papers so that I could see if I can find an editorial and we can analyze for hate as per your Message 21. Maybe that would be a productive and interesting avenue to take.

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