States petition for secession

In a way, it would be fun to watch Jesusland try to struggle on without the subsidies from the more economically successful blue states. And the blue states could do with those Republican parasites off our backs. But on the other hand, conservatives are people too.Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

I know it's probably impossible, but I'm really serious, I'd love to hear ideas about how it might be possible somehow or other, perhaps laid out in stages.Secession of individual states may not be impossible if there's a general agreement that it would be a good idea -- agreed by that 2/3 majority ICANT keeps talking about for changing the Constitution perhaps, or 3/4 or whatever's best, so that could be a factor. Perhaps we "restrictionists" could set up a new capitol, perhaps in Texas, and just divide the governing of the nation between two locations before trying to physically divide the people.Anybody have any ideas?Why should such utterly different philosophical positions have to be continually in conflict with each other? We would get along much better if we didn't have to be subjected to the other side's political decisions.

Such as California?

There is no doubt that the conservative nation would thrive and the liberal collapse but we don't need to tell them that. They'll be happy to get rid of us and the feeling is mutual so let them find out the hard way.

Except that the liberal states are propping the conservative states up.Most Red States Take More Money From Washington Than They Put In – Mother JonesIncidentally, are my taxes still funding your welfare checks?Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

Because despite our political differences, most of us understand that we people of different philosophical bents need each other. A conservative-liberal split of the current population simply doesn't leave two viable countries.Something less than 10 per cent of all scientists consider themselves to be conservative. I suspect that only a paltry few of even that number would want to live in a country full of wing-nuts who hate science.Only Six Percent Of Scientists Are Republicans: Pew Poll | HuffPost Latest News

Let's see ... This is probably one reason why it's a net contributor to the federal budget, unlike, for example, Alabama.

I think we'd do fine if we separated. Take the scientists with you if they want to go. It would be easier on all concerned not to have the constant fighting.

There's no need to argue all this here. California is a great producer, it is also on the verge of total economic collapse. How you put all that together I don't know but I'm willing to give up California and all the blue states to be free of liberal ideology. I'd really like to hear ideas about how that could be made to happen.Ideally I'd want a CHRISTIAN state but I suppose bringing that about would be even harder than splitting red-blue. Much as a generally conservative mind set is far more desirable than the liberal, nevertheless I don't want to be governed by conservatives who deny Christ and insist on evolution either if it's possible to avoid it. What I'd like best of all is a nation governed as the original Puritans and Pilgrims governed theirs based on the gospel of Christ. Maybe at least one state within the new red region could be constituted that way.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

You guys have scientists? Sure, we'll give 'em political asylum before you start stoning 'em.In return, you guys can have Fox News, if they're willing to go --- for some reason their ravings about "liberal elitists" presently come out of a skyscraper on New York's Sixth Avenue rather than from a shack in the backwoods of Kentucky.

I don't want Fox News because they are Catholic. They have some good conservative stuff, but my ideal is the Puritan and Pilgrim model, updated and modified as necessary of course, but completely Reformed Protestant. Anyone can live in my state if they are willing to submit to the Reformed Protestant governing principles, but they can't have any political power. Still hoping for some ideas about how to reorganize America to make us all happy.

Does your cluelessness extend to every subject? California Governor's budget has surprise: a surplus

I keep hearing they're on the verge of collapse, that's all I know. If they aren't, fine, I couldn't care less. It's liberal ideology I want to be free of. Any ideas how to bring that about?

Not noticeably, and they'd be richer still if they didn't have to prop up those red states full of Republican moochers. Fortunately for you, most conservatives share your views on religion. I'm sure if the reddest states did secede, there'd be no problem at all in reverting to the Dark Ages. Your new flag could be Jesus riding on a dinosaur and brandishing an assault rifle, and your new motto can either be "In White Protestant God We Trust" or "Yes, We're As Dumb As We Look".

Unfortunately most conservatives don't share my views on religion, they AREN'T Reformed Protestant. Catholicism ruled the Dark Ages, the Reformation pulled us out of them, but that's also something we shouldn't argue on this thread. Keep your ignorance of history, and your blasphemous snarky tongue and bless the blues with it.Real ideas about how to pull off a great divorce between the reds and the blues and accommodate various subgroups as well, still invited. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.