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Aren't you being overly generous? Pat may have occasional days where he's right twice, but I'm sure it never happens for days on end like a stopped clock. --Percy

example...?PS
Robertson apparently has been reading the concepts of Theistic Evolution interpretations of Genesis which demonstrate that the Bible is actually saying what science now tells us about the creation.For instance, the Big Bang marked the moment of "In the beginning."
Previous to 1940, scientists argued that the Universe had always existed.Robertson was right about 911, when he said that God was warning America thatthe neighboring patriarchs of Islam would crush the gentile sexually promiscuous behaviors that have over taken the USA since the feminist Sexual Revolution of 1960.He was referring to the example of the Hebrew Patriarchs who god made so as to act just like those muslims and their Law, the Sharia of today.But his anti-evolutionism is softening as he re-rreads genesis and hears the Theistic Ev interpretations.

By which I mean do not teach them lies. That should apply to matters of both science and non-science.Obviously, the context here is in reference to scientific evidence, so do not teach blatant falsehoods about the evidence. Based on my 30 years of experience with the subject, "creation science" consists almost entirely of lies about science, lies about scientific evidence, and lies about whatever else they think might serve their agenda.

That is not the example I would have picked. But I do have to thank you for pointing out my error. When I claimed that there must be dozens of ways to demonstrate Pat's idiocy without raising a controversy, I was wrong. There are far fewer. Perhaps there are none. My error was underestimating the ability of human beings to believe the ridiculous and to generate a faux controversy. Thanks for providing your own personal example. I was moved enough to cheer your message.My point was that given the audience here, Faith could have made a better choice of example. But now I'm not so sure. I would have used the following as an example of Pat's lunacy

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Just like what Nazi Germany did to the Jews, so liberal America is now doing to the evangelical Christians. It's no different. It is the same thing. It is happening all over again. It is the Democratic Congress, the liberal-based media and the homosexuals who want to destroy the Christians. Wholesale abuse and discrimination and the worst bigotry directed toward any group in America today. More terrible than anything suffered by any minority in history.

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Really? More terrible than the Inquisition, the Holocaust, and slavery? More terrible than anything the early Christians faced?I might have mentioned his support of war criminal Charles Taylor.Or Pat's ridiculous remarks about Haiti and Napolean which are not even close to being historically correct.But some people do believe that crazy crap.In any event, your point is well taken. Because there are people stupid enough to believe anything, everything is controversial. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

I would have simply pointed out that most liberals are, in fact, Christians. It's not just the comparison that's off-kilter - the claim that "Christians are the victims of systemic abuse and bigotry" is flat ridiculous on its face. They just feel like having their own bigotry exposed, or having their "rights" to force their beliefs onto those who do not share them removed, is somehow a form of bigotry.

Hi kofh, So if I divide 4 billion by 6 less 1,000 yrs for each era I would have the 6 geological eras you are talking about.Each one of those eras would have consisted of 1 light period and 1 dark period as each had a evening and a morning .Each era would consist of 666,665,666.6666667 years in each light and dark period.If I then divide those years up as Genesis 1:5 - Genesis 2:3 I would have a light period of 333,332,833.3333333 years in the light period which would be followed by a dark period of 333,332,833.3333333 years.Fast forward to the sixth day.Animals and mankind is created in this 333,332,833.3333333 year period but there would be no food as there was a dark period of 333,332,833.3333333 years just prior to the light period they began to exist in.I don't see any plants or life forms surviving 333,332,833.3333333 years of darkness.I hope you can see the folly of this preverting of God's Word.If you want to get a old earth and it comply with the Hebrew text you can do it. But your preposterous account is laughable.I believe in a very old Earth. In fact I believe it has always existed in some form just not the form we see today. The Earth and Universe existed as matter and energy from the beginning whenever that was.God Bless,

Hi Faith, That is easy to accomplish.Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.Genesis 2:4 These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.Genesis 2:8 And the LORD God planted a garden eastward in Eden; and there he put the man whom he had formed.Genesis 2:16 And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:2:17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.Genesis 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.This light period ceased to exist prior to Genesis 1:2 as we find darkness existing there.Now we are at a few thousand years ago which we find the Earth in a mess and God has to do a remodling job on it.You can continue from here with the company story minus the man eating a fruit he was forbidden to eat and being cast out of a garden he was never in.Genesis 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.Nothing was forbidden.God Bless,

Hi kofh, Because it is a bunch of garbage, just like the universe beginning to exist in and from non-existence.God Bless,

The sun and moon are already created by this point, Can't use those lengthy days now. I agree with you that this exercise is futile, but let's be fair about it.

Let's split the difference. Here is bigotry, Pat Robertson style..."The store manager at Home Depot said Seasons Greetings to me at the store today. How Nazi! I'd rather be incarcerated with Korematsu and have all of my belongings confiscated than to endure that again. It was worse than a blanket laden with small pox.

Hi Faith, just a small question ... Pat cites the radiometric evidence for an old earth: what is your opinion on radiometric dating?Enjoy.

This is apparently on facebook, but seems accessible (I was able to see it): http://www.facebook.com/aigkenham/posts/252637821531002Bring plenty of popcorn.

Popcorn? Popcorn would imply that one could enjoy watching such stupidity in action. It's onve thing to read a blog about some big shot (Ken Ham, Kent Hovind), but to see real live people actively commenting on the ignorant shit they say is disheartening to say the least.

That's true.I have told those same people that they have very poor reading comprehension which they then apply to telling others what genesis says.
And they are not open to discussion about the things they claim that the Bible says.But I believe that after 10 years on the internet, some of them, like Pat R , realize they must agree with Theistic Evolution interpretation.They will insist that the six "days" were 24 hour durations when the book clearly says the 24 hour solar day was in existence until the 3rd era of the creative process as described in Genesis itself.

Hi kofh, What book you talking about.If you are refering to the Bible give chapter and verse.God Bless,