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Message 83 of 1000 (682190)
11-30-2012 1:05 PM
Reply to: Message 79 by Theodoric
11-30-2012 12:55 PM


Re: Let's ask the Catholics about Salvation
Theodoric, responding to Faith writes:
How does anyone know you are correct?
She has appointed herself omniscient.
I grew up with the understanding that Christians were supposed to be humble. I guess my pastor got that wrong.

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Message 128 of 1000 (682404)
12-01-2012 8:51 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by Faith
12-01-2012 8:14 PM


No True Scotsman alert
Again, as I say above, what you are descdribingb has nothing to do with OFFICIAL PROTESTANT DOCTRINE, which is what this thread is about.
That sure sounds like a "no true Scotsman" defense.
Edited by nwr, : No reason given.

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Message 141 of 1000 (682417)
12-01-2012 10:56 PM
Reply to: Message 129 by Faith
12-01-2012 10:05 PM


Re: No True Scotsman is wrongly applied here
When you have an institution that is defined by certain doctrines such that all members subscribe to those doctrines, that's your criterion for a TRUE adherent of that institution. This is no fallacy, it's a matter of logic and definition.
But that is precisely the "No True Scotsman" - using logic and definition to weasel out of evidence that shows one is clearly wrong.

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Message 144 of 1000 (682420)
12-01-2012 11:23 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by Faith
12-01-2012 11:19 PM


Re: No True Scotsman is wrongly applied here
Of genocide by protestants, as mentioned by jar in Message 122.

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Message 149 of 1000 (682425)
12-01-2012 11:56 PM
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12-01-2012 11:34 PM


Re: No True Scotsman is wrongly applied here
You said weaseling out of EVIDENCE. There is no evidence of any sort in what jar said.
I'm sure that you could find the evidence if you tried. And Theodoric has provided useful links in Message 140.

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Message 260 of 1000 (682799)
12-05-2012 12:52 PM
Reply to: Message 258 by New Cat's Eye
12-05-2012 12:10 PM


Re: Salvation
You just made that up and provided no reasons why I should believe you.
That was just an example of the basic principle of Biblical inerrancy.
  • whenever an error is found, make up stuff to cover over the error.
That's the only way it can be done. Or, more precisely, that is the only way it can be done short of admitting that the Bible is not inerrant.

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Message 295 of 1000 (682946)
12-06-2012 8:51 AM


My summary
The argument seems to be between those who argue that and those who argue that

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Message 341 of 1000 (683791)
12-13-2012 10:27 AM
Reply to: Message 332 by Faith
12-13-2012 5:19 AM


Re: JAR is no Protestant, Get a Clue
Faith writes:
I guess you have NO idea how absolutely insane that sounds. You cannot be a Protestant if you deny THE principles of Protestantism, ridicule them as well, and support Roman Catholic ideas which are THE opposition to Protestantism.
PaulK just stated the core principle of protestantism. I'll suggest that PaulK is not the source of insanity here.

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Message 342 of 1000 (683792)
12-13-2012 10:33 AM
Reply to: Message 335 by Faith
12-13-2012 5:36 AM


Re: JAR is no Protestant, Get a Clue
Faith writes:
It's not that they are authorities, it's that they spelled out what was wrong with Rome and spelled out the Biblical answer to it.
Spelling out the Biblical answer to anything is asserting authority.
If the Bible is the sole authority, then one can express one's one reading of that. But one cannot spell out the Biblical answer to anything. The Biblical answer has to be determined by reading the Bible, not by listening to authorities who tell you what the Bible says.
Fundamentalist Christianity is a new papacy, due to its practice of asserting authority.

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