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Topic: Gun Control Again
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NoNukes
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
Damn, Poe'd again. Just for the record, if I ever do a "pro-gun" argument, it will be about putting large artillery on naval ships. Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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herebedragons
Member (Idle past 884 days) Posts: 1517 From: Michigan Joined: 11-22-2009
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
Lol. I think NoNukes needs a lesson in Irony Punctuation  HBD (see what I did there?)
Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
herebedragons writes: Like you said, maybe the safety should be lower on the grip so a small hand could not activate it.
I think they'd figure out how to do it with both hands. Small minds can be very ingenious, since they're not hampered by preconceived notions. I saw an episode of 60 Minutes or 20/20 or some such thing in which a woman taught pre-schoolers about gun safety. Every one of them knew how to load and fire a handgun.
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NoNukes
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Message 3289 of 5179 (749252)
02-03-2015 12:05 PM
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Reply to: Message 3288 by ringo
02-03-2015 11:12 AM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
I think they'd figure out how to do it with both hands. Small minds can be very ingenious, since they're not hampered by preconceived notions. True, but if the gun is not operable immediately as this one was, the parents have a better opportunity to intervene before they get shot. And as has been pointed out, it is absolutely reckless to have a round in the chamber anyhow.
Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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ringo
Member (Idle past 439 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: 03-23-2005
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Message 3290 of 5179 (749253)
02-03-2015 12:12 PM
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Reply to: Message 3289 by NoNukes
02-03-2015 12:05 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
NoNukes writes: And as has been pointed out, it is absolutely reckless to have a round in the chamber anyhow.
The problem is that the criminal that you're trying to defend yourself from can probably shoot just as fast as a three-year-old.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 3291 of 5179 (749258)
02-03-2015 12:36 PM
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Reply to: Message 3290 by ringo
02-03-2015 12:12 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
NoNukes writes: And as has been pointed out, it is absolutely reckless to have a round in the chamber anyhow.
The problem is that the criminal that you're trying to defend yourself from can probably shoot just as fast as a three-year-old. Or maybe not.
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NoNukes
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Message 3292 of 5179 (749262)
02-03-2015 1:26 PM
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Reply to: Message 3290 by ringo
02-03-2015 12:12 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
The problem is that the criminal that you're trying to defend yourself from can probably shoot just as fast as a three-year-old. You mean that quick draw gun slinging mugger who existed solely in the head of Ma Barker and her idiot husband? Somehow that imaginary crook was more of a threat than the 3 year old that was enabled by your careless packing of a shooting iron? Please. The only criminals involved in this scenario were the parents. ABE:
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On average, at least two children are shot dead a week in accidents in the US and in three-quarters of the cases, the gun was fired by another child.
Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.
Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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1.61803
Member (Idle past 1531 days) Posts: 2928 From: Lone Star State USA Joined: 02-19-2004
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
This is all assuming the weapon was a automatic. I did not read anywhere what kind of handgun it was. If it was a snubby revolver all the kid had to do is point and pull the trigger. He might of even knew enough to cock the hammer back to the horror of his parents.
"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs
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NoNukes
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Message 3294 of 5179 (749290)
02-03-2015 3:22 PM
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Reply to: Message 3293 by 1.61803
02-03-2015 1:49 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
This is all assuming the weapon was a automatic. I'm confused. I thought automatics were illegal. Or is automatic the terminology used for semi-automatics?
Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Theodoric
Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: 08-15-2005 Member Rating: 3.2
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Message 3295 of 5179 (749295)
02-03-2015 3:43 PM
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Reply to: Message 3294 by NoNukes
02-03-2015 3:22 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
Yes
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 3296 of 5179 (749301)
02-03-2015 3:55 PM
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Reply to: Message 3294 by NoNukes
02-03-2015 3:22 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
I thought automatics were illegal. Not at the federal level. You have to pay a $200 tax and fill out a bunch of paperwork. I've shot, iirc, three different fully automatic rifles. One was an M-16, I think, and the other was a Mac-11, for sure. That stupid thing bounced all over the place. I don't recall what the third one was. It was all 100% legal. We were in Missouri.
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NoNukes
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
Not at the federal level. You have to pay a $200 tax and fill out a bunch of paperwork. You are right. Federal law does not apply to pre-1986 manufactured weapons. I imagine those 30 year old guns are pretty popular among some folks.
Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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New Cat's Eye
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Message 3298 of 5179 (749310)
02-03-2015 4:21 PM
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Reply to: Message 3297 by NoNukes
02-03-2015 4:05 PM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
I imagine those 30 year old guns are pretty popular among some folks. Really expensive too. Like, as much as a new car. I think a civilian might be able to acquire newly made machine guns if you set yourself up as a dealer - but then you'd really only be able to sell them to police departments. But I'm not sure.
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NoNukes
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
I think a civilian might be able to acquire newly made machine guns if you set yourself up as a dealer I don't think that is correct. Here is what I found to be the exceptions to federal law.
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Machine guns that were lawfully possessed prior to May 19, 1986 may continue to be possessed and transferred provided they are registered in accordance with requirements of the National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA). Machine guns may be transferred to or by, or possessed by or under the authority of, the federal government or a state, or a department, agency, or political subdivision thereof.
Je Suis Charlie Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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Dr Adequate
Member (Idle past 311 days) Posts: 16113 Joined: 07-20-2006
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Message 3300 of 5179 (749380)
02-04-2015 2:57 AM
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Reply to: Message 3280 by Percy
02-01-2015 9:43 AM
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Re: 3-year Old Boy Shoots Parents
If only there'd been a Good Toddler With A Gun.
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