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Time exists at the earliest point in time by your definition. by human definition
If you consider yourself to be non-human and assign different meanings to words that doesn't make Oser wrong, that just makes you incapable of understanding Oser's point.
Or are you claiming that Oser isn't human, uses a different language, and therefore doesn't mean what he seems to say ?
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Oser's point is reasonable only if you believe there is no other option than naturalism
No, it doesn't assume naturalism at all.
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Naturalism necessitates there is no supernatual being. If there is a supernatural being beyond time as we know it, then it is obvious that a supernatural being that created this universe, was before the time of this universe.
And that is only possibly true if there was a TIME before this universe.
Oser's point stands.
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"I AM" means God was before there was you, before our universe, before anything we can ever try to learn.
It might do in your made-up "non-human" language. However, as an English phrase it has an English meaning and that isn't what you say.
Edited by PaulK, : No reason given.