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UK's Thatcher, rot in hell . . .

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04-16-2013 1:58 PM 		Reply to: Message 1 by dronestar
04-16-2013 9:53 AM

Under both Thatcher and Reagan, there was the escalation of the Cold War, income taxes was cut, privatization was pushed, tax rates for the rich were lowered, unions were broken, globalization over national interests were advanced, and military spending was massively increased.
I've been critical of Reagan. I probably haven't commented on Thatcher, because that's not where I live and vote.
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Reagan's election was a reaction to the incompetence of Carter. He (Carter) was good on policy decision, but a failure at using the president's bully pulpit. In the 1976 presidential campaign, I was asking "Jimmy who?" I'm still asking. This was a terrible choice for candidate. We cannot blame everything on Reagan without looking to the failures that resulted in Reagan being elected.
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I'm more distant from UK politics. As I saw it, Thatcher's election was a reaction to the excesses of the left (the Labor party). At least some of the blame should be assigned to Labor.
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04-16-2013 2:04 PM 		Reply to: Message 24 by 1.61803
04-16-2013 12:51 PM

Re: speak ill of the dead?
I still feel saying rot in hell and the like at a funeral is in poor taste.
It's always fine to say RIP. And if you privately take that to stand for "Rot In Perdition", who is going to object?
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04-16-2013 2:11 PM 		Reply to: Message 40 by NoNukes
04-16-2013 2:08 PM

Somehow we cannot hold Reagan totally responsible for his own actions, because he should have been prevented him from being elected? Is that really any kind of argument?
Well, that is incredible.
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Where did I say that we cannot hold Reagan responsible for his own actions?
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04-16-2013 7:00 PM 		Reply to: Message 42 by NoNukes
04-16-2013 2:31 PM

Reagan is completely responsible for his own actions. Surely you can see the attempt to say otherwise in your words quoted above.
I am sorry to hear of your sudden reading difficulties. Do get well soon.
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"Everything" is not the same as "Reagan's own actions".
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04-16-2013 7:03 PM 		Reply to: Message 45 by dronestar
04-16-2013 3:36 PM

I appreciate your reply nwr, but as we are now in a interconnected global community, we should be more interested in what our 'brother' does in another part of the world, especially when we are supporting it.
There is a lot that I am interested in, that I refrain from commenting on.
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