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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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Idol: 3. a person or thing devotedly or excessively admired. - someone who is adored blindly and excessively....matinee idol heartthrob - an object of infatuation Is this what you really think about blow jobs? Have you ever recieved one? No one is excessively admiring or blindly adoring anything. It's about providing pleasure to the person you're with. - Oni
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Phat Member Posts: 18345 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Its interesting that you bring up the term "graven image."
I did a study on it once...a graven image is essentially a carved(or created,human inspired,) imagination. As a man thinks in his heart, so is he. Oftentimes, our own human egos can essentially become graven images. When we ourselves see ourselves as higher than God and when we declare that God Himself is a product of human imagination, we essentially worship our own intellects...and deny the truth.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 829 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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So you've given up even trying to have a discussion and are simply going to preach now? Pathetic. Can't say I'm surprised, though.
"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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When we ourselves see ourselves as higher than God and when we declare that God Himself is a product of human imagination, we essentially worship our own intellects...and deny the truth. Interseting - you seem to just know something is truth, have no evidence to support that claim, then claim we're the ones worhipping our own intellect. - Oni
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Phat Member Posts: 18345 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
Its also interesting how angry people get when i point that out! As for having a discussion, im still open, hooah...why would anything change based on what I asserted?
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2 |
Phat writes: Then so must be cunnilingus within a hetero relationship, yes? Outside of marriage, yes. It must be very stressful be the moral arbiter and definer of all things christian. Amazing how many christians are willing to take on that role personally.Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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onifre Member (Idle past 2978 days) Posts: 4854 From: Dark Side of the Moon Joined:
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Its also interesting how angry people get when i point that out! I don't get what there is to be angry about. You just pointed out that you yourself worship your own intellect. - Oni
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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 312 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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And I would disagree. I would call it idolatry. Why would you call it idolatry? I've never noticed you having this difficulty with nouns before. Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.
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Theodoric Member Posts: 9197 From: Northwest, WI, USA Joined: Member Rating: 3.2
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That is all Phat ever wants to do. He seems to think he is in possession of the grand secret to everything.
Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts "God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined: |
Phat writes:
Actually, you brought it up - and I was poking fun at the reference.
Its interesting that you bring up the term "graven image." Phat writes:
Speaking of ego, you're the one who claims to know The Truth - i.e. that there is a God and that He is above us. It's actually pretty humbling to think that there might not be a Sky Daddy to bail us out and that we might have to figure things out for ourselves.
Oftentimes, our own human egos can essentially become graven images. When we ourselves see ourselves as higher than God and when we declare that God Himself is a product of human imagination, we essentially worship our own intellects...and deny the truth.
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ringo Member (Idle past 440 days) Posts: 20940 From: frozen wasteland Joined:
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Phat writes:
Assertion itself is the problem. A good discussion isn't just assertion and counter-assertion. When somebody tells you how you're wrong, it isn't enough to say, "Nuh-uh, I'm right."
...why would anything change based on what I asserted?
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 829 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Its also interesting how angry people get when i point that out! In order for you to have pointed something out, you would have to state a fact. Stating your belief isn't pointing anything out. Second: who is angry? Why is that you religionites think any argument against your position is automatically done out of anger or that someone who disagrees with your arcane views is angry?
As for having a discussion, im still open, hooah...why would anything change based on what I asserted? Then you would do well to do less preaching and more backing up of your arguments with evidence. You aren't having a discussion, you are preaching. The message Oni replied to had NOTHING to do with the topic. It was some weird statement of your beliefs about your imaginary friend. Aren't you supposed to be convincing us that you aren't a bigot? You aren't doing so well. You seem to just be digging your heels in further and sticking your head deeper in the sand."Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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Phat Member Posts: 18345 From: Denver,Colorado USA Joined: Member Rating: 1.0 |
quote:I am using Biblical references as evidence. The fact that you wont accept my evidence isn't on me. Besides, all I am supporting are my beliefs.
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hooah212002 Member (Idle past 829 days) Posts: 3193 Joined:
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Funny, then, that your last 6 messages (at least) have been about fucking jesus, blow jobs as idolatry and yet another about human egos or something. How is that biblical "evidence" that you aren't a bigot? All you've had to do is say (like I already pointed out): "I think gays are yucky". We could say "then don't be gay (you don't have a choice)" or "don't get married to a man".
OR pull out that bible of yours and point to the verse where god says "gays are bad, mmkay? You should discriminate against them". Oh wait, you tried that and it fell flat because non-asshole christians (even the atheists here) showed you that your reading is wrong. The only person that agrees with your backwards ass reading is Faith. Think about that for a bit. Then, you could go picket with Fred Phelps. Don't want to do that? Don't agree with them? Prove it. Otherwise, your actions (based on arguments you actually are making) show you to be just as bigoted and hateful. Peronally? i think you are actually gay and are fighting your natural urges. Usually works out that way. You really do come off afraid of natural urges with how you demonize anything sex related. "Science is interesting, and if you don't agree you can fuck off." -Dawkins
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Straggler Member (Idle past 93 days) Posts: 10333 From: London England Joined:
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Phat writes: I am using Biblical references as evidence. But are you? Heterosexual oral sex outside of marriage is idolatry (according to you) but once married the same acts are not idolatry. How does that coem from the bible?
Phat writes: The fact that you wont accept my evidence isn't on me. I think the problem is that you are picking your evidence to support your preconceived conclusion.....
Phat writes: Besides, all I am supporting are my beliefs. So if I said you were picking and choosing your biblical "evidence" to support your personal bigoted beliefs - Where would you suggest I have got it wrong?
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