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Message 3 of 62 (700802)
06-07-2013 11:01 AM


It is sort of the message from Vatican II. Accepting that all people of all religions can recieve grace outside the church.
It has been a point of contention since then I believe.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 33 of 62 (701073)
06-11-2013 10:52 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by Tempe 12ft Chicken
06-07-2013 11:32 AM


Re: Similar, but not the same
Hello Tempe 12ftChicken,
Thanks for the response,
Tempe 12ftChicken writes:
Rather, I find it surprising that the Catholics, those who persecuted others for so long, are somewhat on the forefront of attempting to reduce persecution, even for complete lack of belief.
I think that like many religions there are a great deal of misconceptions regarding the Catholic religion.
I have been a Cathlolic my whole life. But am now what I concider a "ethnic Catholic" Meaning I was born and raised in a devote Catholic home and all I ever knew growing up was that.
Now that I no longer believe in some of the main tennents of the faith I no longer attend mass. But still am interested in what the church has to say.
The word catholic means universal in the greek language. And you are right the church has become more accepting over the years. I mean it was several years ago that Pope John Paul said that it now is acceptable for Catholics to believe in extra terrestrials and the possibilty of life on other planets.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 34 of 62 (701074)
06-11-2013 11:12 AM
Reply to: Message 31 by Faith
06-11-2013 1:10 AM


Re: The Ultimate Power Play
. another Catholic persecution as Hitler was Catholic, said he modeled it on the Inquisition,
While it is true Hitler was Catholic until his death, and that the Church never condemned him publicly your suggestion that Hitler commited his "final solution" the extermination of the Jew in the name of Catholcism needs to be supported by evidence and facts.
Where did he say or quote or write that? Source please.
If anything it was Martin Luthers anti semetic writings and background that contributed to Hitlers twisted racism and hatred of the Jews. Martin Luther and antisemitism - Wikipedia
Edited by 1.61803, : changed lead to contributed.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 48 of 62 (701159)
06-12-2013 12:44 PM
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06-12-2013 2:27 AM


Re: The Ultimate Power Play
Faith writes:
murdered millions of TRUE Christians
A quick check on the interwebz shows:
the number the inqusition executed is more likey 30-300k. That is a high estimate.
Faith writes:
NONChristian, in fact Antichristian, Roman Catholic Church which CALLS itself Christian to the confusion of the whole world.
Oh right the whole world is confused and you know whats really going on. Riiiiiiight.
Faith writes:
Catholic religion is NOT Christianity
huh?
Faith writes:
The whole point here is to show that Catholicism is NOT Christian
I suppose if you say it enough times it must be true.
It seems the Catholics have been very busy doing all the evil shit the Protestants wish to distance them selves from.
You really should seek help. That much hatred can't be healthy.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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