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ringo
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Message 18 of 46 (701525)
06-20-2013 1:29 PM
Reply to: Message 8 by Jon
06-18-2013 2:21 PM


Jon writes:
Treason is treason. Not by design, but by simple reason.
Treason is doing something the government doesn't like. It originated with doing something the King didn't like, such as failing to take your hat off in his presence. Unfortunately, treason is one of the aspects of the feudal system that modern governments have decided to continue.
"Treason" often has little to do with what's bad for the nation.
My policy has always been to keep my own secrets. I don't tell you a secret and then blame you for leaking it.

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ringo
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Message 21 of 46 (701577)
06-21-2013 12:00 PM
Reply to: Message 20 by caffeine
06-21-2013 4:00 AM


Re: The definition of treason
caffeine writes:
The fairly vague notion of 'Aid and Comfort' does make US law a little less clear than most European jurisdictions, though.
Exactly. The government can construe "aid and comfort" to be virtually anything that it doesn't want you to do. Thus, treason is effectively defined as anything the government doesn't want you to do. Of course, it could be difficult to get a conviction using a questionable notion of "aid and comfort" but we're not talking about convictions, are we? We're talking about casually throwing accusations around.

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