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jar
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Message 10 of 114 (702561)
07-09-2013 10:37 AM


Debt can be good
Whether debt is good or bad depends on why the debt was incurred. Is the value of what the debt purchased worth more than the actual cost incurred? Debt to build, repair, replace infrastructure, debt to improve the health, education and quality of life of the general population is usually good. Healthy educated citizens are an asset to a country. Good infrastructure is an asset to a country.
Other debt may well be bad.
But all the debt must get repaid.
The first step towards repaying debt though is to abolish the fiction of the "Corporate Person".

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 18 of 114 (702612)
07-10-2013 8:52 AM
Reply to: Message 12 by Phat
07-09-2013 11:28 PM


Re: Why Must The Debt Be Repaid?
And, as you know I have answered that for you many times.
First, debts can get repaid in other than money. They can get paid in pain and suffering. If the US stopped paying it's debts then the currency will get devalued and the whole world would suffer. When Safeway goes to by those products they sell from other countries the suppliers would either simply refuse to sell to Safeway.
Debt can also be transferred. When the individual refuses to pay his debts they do not simply disappear, rather they get passed on to others.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 24 of 114 (707310)
09-26-2013 8:55 AM
Reply to: Message 23 by Phat
09-26-2013 5:49 AM


Re: Scary
Too funny.
And just what would the US do with the WMD's?

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Message 26 of 114 (707314)
09-26-2013 9:48 AM
Reply to: Message 25 by Straggler
09-26-2013 9:37 AM


Re: Scary
Not sure how any of those options would help the US economy.

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jar
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Message 28 of 114 (707317)
09-26-2013 10:07 AM
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09-26-2013 10:02 AM


Re: Scary
That way too far off topic for this thread.

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jar
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Message 30 of 114 (707332)
09-26-2013 11:46 AM
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09-26-2013 11:37 AM


Re: Scary
Why would killing folk be taken off the table?
My question was directed towards Phat's post Message 23. Did you even read that?

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jar
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Message 32 of 114 (707335)
09-26-2013 11:57 AM
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09-26-2013 11:51 AM


Re: Scary
You can of course ask most any fool question you like.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 34 of 114 (707343)
09-26-2013 12:30 PM
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09-26-2013 12:19 PM


Re: Scary
In the context of this topic you should ask Phat, not me.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 36 of 114 (707354)
09-26-2013 1:02 PM
Reply to: Message 35 by Straggler
09-26-2013 12:59 PM


Re: Scary
You are of course free to ask any fool question.
But I am also free to just laugh at you.
Ask Phat, he is the one that suggested WMDs might be used, not I.

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Message 39 of 114 (707362)
09-26-2013 1:22 PM
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09-26-2013 1:07 PM


Re: Scary
Again, what would using WMD's accomplish?
How do you nullify an economic threat by using WMDs?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 40 of 114 (707363)
09-26-2013 1:23 PM
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09-26-2013 1:11 PM


Re: Scary
No one claimed that the US was responsible for anything but its own debt.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 42 of 114 (707366)
09-26-2013 1:31 PM
Reply to: Message 41 by Phat
09-26-2013 1:25 PM


Re: Scary
What happens if the US stops paying its debts?
How long would you have a job if Safeway received no imported foods to put on the shelves?
Would a country do anything more than laugh at the US if it threatened to use WMDs if the country refused to sell food to the US?

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 44 of 114 (707371)
09-26-2013 1:52 PM
Reply to: Message 43 by Phat
09-26-2013 1:35 PM


Re: Reality Can Be Ugly
We wanted what you call "this massive bill".
We voted for politicians that supported starting wars, making the debt higher, not raising taxes, under funding infrastructure, removing the safety net, destroying education about responsibilities, destroying the whole concept of news and reporting, removing controls on industry ...
We wanted this massive bill and we still want it to get even bigger.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 46 of 114 (707374)
09-26-2013 2:04 PM
Reply to: Message 45 by Phat
09-26-2013 1:59 PM


Re: Reality Can Be Ugly
Phat writes:
You do realize that my tongue-in-cheek pronouncements on a culture desperate enough to use WMD's has an element of truth to it---if this current population--the "we" of today--may in fact get scared enough to push the red button if doomsday ever came.
Which is why the CCoI is the greatest threat to the world today.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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jar
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Message 48 of 114 (707458)
09-27-2013 12:35 PM
Reply to: Message 47 by xongsmith
09-27-2013 12:26 PM


Re: Reality Can Be Ugly
CCoI == Christian Cult of Ignorance.

Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!

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