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Davidjay
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Message 376 of 623 (804667)
04-12-2017 1:23 AM
Reply to: Message 369 by kbertsche
04-11-2017 6:35 PM


Re: Some hits and some misses?
My information comes from study and a search for exactness in WHAT IS, not what a bunch of evolutionists hope might be proven someday in the far future.

The Lord is exact, and His prophecies are exact

You are in exact and out of the ball park and desperate to be right when you are so wrong.

Your life is on the line and you know it. Design destroys lack of design..always

I dont have numerology I have measurements and exactness, you have quesses and millions of years. If it doesn;t work you pretend and factor in billions and billions of years.

Jesus wins again , Hes the great MATHEMATICIAN

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/MathematicsMysteries.html

And it seems you are also afraid of the Lords Great Pyramid, as fear of truths rule evolutionary hearts and especially their minds.
They always feared that someday someone would challenge their beloved religion.

Back to the Math


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay
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Message 377 of 623 (804668)
04-12-2017 1:27 AM


No prophecy of the Lord has ever failed
By the Lords direct words, He states that every prophecy of His will come to pass and none of them will fail.. None as in NONE.

Its not hit and miss quesses, but absolute certainty of fulfillment...

********************************

"It should go without saying that none of the Lord's Prophecies shall
fail, yet some people out of fear of making a mistake in prophecy, negate
the Lord's Prophecy and make themselves willingly ignorant of His and
our Future, They even search through scriptures looking for places where
they can back up their unbelief.

They choose Paul's rather loose wording words and contradictory words in I Corinthians 13 over the Lord's direct
Words. They are very different, for first let's read what Paul said …my responses in ….(…)

1Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: (Yes Love never fails because God is love...which is what Paul is trying to
emphasis) but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail;(Yes man's made-up prophecies shall fail, but NO absolutely
Not Paul, the Lord's Prophecies from His mouth straight through His prophets and prophetesses will NOT fail. You
should watch your wording much closer Paul) whether there be tongues, they shall cease; (Yes, after the Lord's return,
when He gives us a new language we probably won't be speaking in tongues anymore but until then we shall be, so Paul
can't say that after he wrote this epistle to this new babe church, that tongues were right then and there going to stop.
NO, we shall speak in tongues in the End-Time and we shall be getting more information from the Lord through
Prophecy in the End-Time) whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away. (No true knowledge stays and is eternal
and besides for eternity we will never learn all the beautiful knowledge of the Lord. So again, be more specific and clear
Paul, as people easily twist your words around to something you surely didn't intend to say)

WHY...because the Lord, the King of Kings, and Almighty Father who created the
Worlds and everything that is via the WORD.said through direct prophecy through
his anointed and appointed prophet

Isaiah 34:16 Seek ye out of the book of the LORD, and read: no one
of these shall fail, none shall want her mate: for my mouth
it hath commanded, and his spirit it hath gathered them.

None of the Lord's prophecies shall fail…..and the vast majority of prophecies are yet to be fulfilled because All our
brethren and prophets in the past desired to be living in the Last Days to see the fulfillment of all their hopes and
dreams in the Lord making right all the wrongs of man kind ………straight forward and simple.

Therefore the Lord shall be speaking to us more and more into the End-Time …and revealing more about prophecies
with new prophecies so we can understand what the Lord shall be doing in the Latter Days.

Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, EVEN to the time of the end: (when it has to be
opened up)

Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your
daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: (We shall All prophesy)

Joel 2:29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. (To those that
OBEY Him)

Joe; 2:30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. (during the
tribulation and we shall be on Earth)

Joel 2:31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the
LORD come. (during the tribulation and we won’t have been resurrected until AFTER the Tribulation)

Joel 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount
Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

**********************************************

For NONE of the Lord’s Prophecies of the End-Time shall fail, they shall be fulfilled exactly. And that’s not
my opinion, that’s the Lord’s Word."

Jay (Jordan)

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/NoWordshalllfail.html

Jesus wins again....


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


    
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Message 378 of 623 (804672)
04-12-2017 1:52 AM
Reply to: Message 376 by Davidjay
04-12-2017 1:23 AM


Re: Some hits and some misses?
Davidjay writes:

And it seems you are also afraid of the Lords Great Pyramid


The Lord's Great Pyramid?!? Which "Lord" do you serve?

The Great Pyramid of Giza was completed about 2560 BC, about 500 years before YHWH called Abraham. No Israelites were involved in its construction. It is not mentioned in Scripture. So what makes it "the Lord's"? Why is it any more "the Lord's" than is any other pyramid, or the Sphinx?


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein

I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously. Erwin Schroedinger


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Davidjay
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Message 379 of 623 (804674)
04-12-2017 2:08 AM
Reply to: Message 378 by kbertsche
04-12-2017 1:52 AM


Re:
I serve the Lord of Lords, also known as the King of Kings, or Prince of Peace, or Creator, but usually referred to as JESUS.

As for your second question, honestly I never ever thought of it, exactly as Enoch was removed without dying at age 365, just before the year of the Great Flood.

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/ForeFathersGraphic.html

in 2348 exactly.

Hence Enoch could have designed it of course with His heavenly help in the heavenlies (personally) or when he was here.

Good question......

For the Pyramid by its exact location is absolutely IMPORTANT and a GREAT GEOGRAPHICAL DESIGN MARKER.

SEE Great Circles Design

Let me see if I have a reference or a reference for you to get started understanding it.

Mine, here's one as it connects Petra where we flee to (SEE THREAD on Revelation 13)

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/GreatCircle.html

Here be, its not my site....
but some great info

http://www.thegreatdesign.com/archive/Chapter1/105.htm

Do note agin the connections, exact connections between geographic locations

And again pointing straight to Bethlehem, Christos Angle, the amzing angle to Bethlehem from Giza, and inside Giza, the RAMP of the Lord of Lords....

Enjoy... its all there and then everything can make sense.

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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Davidjay
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Message 380 of 623 (804675)
04-12-2017 2:12 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by Davidjay
04-12-2017 2:08 AM


Re: Giza Location designed
Whoops, I went a different direction when writing my last comment. I was going to write about Giza's exact position. Study it, know how and why it was located exactly there and not at a random site.

Why its in the center of the world land mass, why ?

Why is it on the bedrock there that could hold it without sinking....keep its alignment and be a testimony of the Creator and all of world history.

Its location alone is divine and not evolutyionary by trial and error.

Its tomb is exactly the same as the ARK of the Lord in the Holy of Holies. Why, study darn yas study


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Davidjay
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Message 381 of 623 (804676)
04-12-2017 2:13 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by Davidjay
04-12-2017 2:08 AM


Re: Giza Location designed
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Edited by Davidjay, : No reason given.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 382 of 623 (804677)
04-12-2017 3:24 AM
Reply to: Message 379 by Davidjay
04-12-2017 2:08 AM


Re:
Davidjay writes:


As for your second question, honestly I never ever thought of it, exactly as Enoch was removed without dying at age 365, just before the year of the Great Flood.

in 2348 exactly.

Hence Enoch could have designed it of course with His heavenly help in the heavenlies (personally) or when he was here.

Good question......


And why do you think that Enoch had anything at all to do with the design of the Great Pyramid of Giza? Is there any scripture that suggests this? Any that says he spent any time in Egypt? Any Egyptian inscriptions that tie Enoch to the pyramids?

"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein

I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously. Erwin Schroedinger


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Message 383 of 623 (804705)
04-12-2017 1:48 PM
Reply to: Message 380 by Davidjay
04-12-2017 2:12 AM


Re: Giza Location designed
I was going to write about Giza's exact position. Study it, know how and why it was located exactly there and not at a random site.
Why its in the center of the world land mass, why ?

Well, why indeed? Why on earth should the great pyramid of Giza matter in the slightest to any of us? The pyramids are the tombs of Egyptian pharaohs. What do they have to do with believers in Christ?

Why is it on the bedrock there that could hold it without sinking....keep its alignment and be a testimony of the Creator and all of world history.

How is a tomb built for a pharaoh in any way at all "a testimony of the Creator and all of world history," especially since nobody but scholars of Egypt gives it any thought?

Its location alone is divine and not evolutyionary by trial and error.

But how can it be divine if it doesn't have any significance to the vast majority of humanity? The Bible is divine, and it happens to be significant to a great number of people. The pyramid? Not even a blip on the radar for most of us. Why are you so wrapped up in this nonChristian stuff if you are a Christian? Ancient Egypt was just one of the many empires of fallen humanity under Satan, why are you getting so caught up in it?

Its tomb is exactly the same as the ARK of the Lord in the Holy of Holies. Why, study darn yas study

What? What on earth has convinced you pagan Egypt and its pyramids have anything whatever to do with God as He's revealed himself in the Bible? At the very least you are letting your imagination run wild in bizarre directions.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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Davidjay
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Message 384 of 623 (804752)
04-13-2017 1:34 AM
Reply to: Message 382 by kbertsche
04-12-2017 3:24 AM


Re:
KBERT, you asked about Enoch.. Here is a start to your research, do read his book as well...

Let me give the exact explaining hyperlink and text hereafter.

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/...esignedtheGreatPyramid.html

The Great Pyramid at Giza, was not designed by Pharaoh but by Enoch, the man who walked with God.’ (Read the
‘Book of Enoch’ – Genesis 5: 24). Egyptian laborers were used but the intelligence in the exact design came
from the DESIGNER of the Universe, and that’s what Enoch passed on to the builders of the Great Pyramid. It was
not a mere burial tomb for a dead Pharaoh, but was meant to show ‘in stone’ the Timeline of Mankind until the
2nd Coming of the King of Kings. (SEE Great Pyramid Time Prophecy). This is why; it incorporates the dimensions of
the Earth, Moon, and the template of life called the Golden Section which the Creator used in both the microcosm as
well as the macrocosm (SEE Golden Section Graphics).

And therefore of all the ‘Seven Wonders of the World’ only the Great Pyramid has been preserved by the Lord
as a witness to His Greatness, design and TIMING until the END. None of the others have been preserved and remain,
only the GREAT PYRAMID of the Lord.

And it is because Enoch was the master builder, that the Great Pyramid in ancient times was called ‘Enoch’s
Pillar’. His godly influence as a ‘desert shepherd’ in turning the Pharaoh’s heart temporarily to the Lord
ruled, before the Egyptian rulers reverted back to their worship of many gods. Enoch’s Pillar was placed exactly as a
boundary and cornerstone in Egypt, as only the Creator of the whole world would have known.

For as Isaiah said…. In that day shall there be an altar to the Lord in the MIDST of the land of Egypt and a PILLAR at
the BORDER thereof to the Lord. Isaiah 19: 20

For the Great Pyramid was not just a stone structure stuck randomly on the plateau of Giza. The Lord’s PILLAR,
the Great Pyramid of Giza, is situated exactly at the center of gravity of the Earth, as geographers and mathematicians
have now found out. For do remember that the Earth at one time was just one land mass, which the Lord later divided
and spread apart, not by inch by inch continental drift, but by cataclysmic power after the Flood. (SEE Geography
Mysteries, Adam to Flood Timeline and Continental Drift )

Consequently the Giza location is also on the longest possible landmass line whether in longitude or latitude. And
hence any true researcher has to come to the conclusion that the Great Pyramid’s very location was divinely
inspired and NOT chosen by accident or chance.

And similarly, this type of boundary marker of the Lord, was NOT just done in Giza, but even the Children of Israel
were instructed to build one as a WITNESS to succeeding generations. (SEE Joshua 22 ) Similarly, even the angels that
preceded the FALL built a 500 foot high pyramid as an altar unto the Creator. (SEE Cydonia Pyramid on Mars). Again
this height being consistent with the height of Giza, and the height of even Glastonbury Tor, all miniatures of the
Greatest Temple of ALL, the phi designed, Crystal Pyramid of Eternity, New Jerusalem. (SEE New Jerusalem is a
Crystal Pyramid)

And if you study pyramidology, you will soon discover that an inch equals a year in time by theory. And that theory
accurately and precisely parallels the exact history of the Earth when you add up all the 500 feet of both its height and
its passageways. Why because 500 feet equals 6000 inches which equals 6000 years.

And Enoch stated very precisely that there was going to be Seven thousand years before the Earth was renewed. And
when you take away one thousand years, for the Lord’s Millennial rule before this NEW HEAVEN and NEW Earth,
and descent of New Jerusalem to the Earth, then that leaves us with a 6,000 year rule of man. Hence the Pillar of Enoch
was a n exact prophetic marker and WITNESS as well as an altar, from which His people were to give glory and honor
to the Creator. And that is why, internally it’s dimensions and sarcophagus parallels the most sacred Temple of All,
the TABERNACLE consisting of The ARK of the Covenant inside the HOLY OF HOLIES. The parallels are exact
because the Lord is exact. (SEE Ark and Sacrophagus)

But in case you still don’t believe after what you have studied and researched so far. Do notice that as you proceed
in time down the ascending passage way of the Great Pyramid to the Flood of Noah, and upwards to Christ and the start
of the Grand Gallery, and then onto the Great Step, you pass thru the Ante Room. (SEE Frequency Corelation of 29
Steps) And what is the dimension of this room before you enter into the King’s Chamber…. It’s circular
circumference touching each side and floor is 365.24 inches. And when you change this revolution in inches into time,
you get 365 years which is the exact length of Enoch’s life while here on Earth. (SEE Genesis 5: 23) And when you
convert every inch into a day, you get 365.24 days which is the exact number of days it takes the Earth to travel around
the SUN (SEE Tabernacle of the SUN) And so with these measurements you have the confirmation from the Lord that
Enoch was the man He sent to design His temple and Boundary, and WITNESS, and they have called this
circumference, ‘ENOCH’S CIRCLE’

In My Opinion

In His Service

David Jay Jordan

For further confirmations
SEE
Entrance to the Pit of Descent
Christos Angle to the Womb
Great Step of Faith … KJV
31.68 Latitude and Bethlehem


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Davidjay
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Message 385 of 623 (804754)
04-13-2017 1:38 AM
Reply to: Message 383 by Faith
04-12-2017 1:48 PM


Re: Giza Location designed
Faith as mentioned the Great Pyramid was built by Enoch as mentioned IN Isiah, and is a testimony written in stone as proof they could have known.

It states exactly when the written word of KJV came out at the GREAT STEP.

Just because you dont like math, doesnt mean others would not appreciate direct exact mathematical prophecy that absolutely shows Jesus is the Messiah.

http://www.davidjayjordan.com/Jesus.html

As you can see prophecy is a spirit of the Lord and I have included it in my summation writings.

Who are Jesus's Other Sheep
Jesus, the Son of God
Salvation
Holy Spirit
Who is Jesus
Jesus never lost a sheep
Jesus is the Creator
Grace and Not Works
Encouraging Forsaken
How to Know God's Will
Jesus's Own Words
I, (Jesus) am the good shepherd,
the good shepherd giveth his
life for the sheep and I know
them and am known of mine
John 10
Home Page
Bible
Prophecy
E-mail us at Davidjayjordan@yahoo.com
Lineage of Jesus
How to get Faith
Coming of the Messiah Timeline
The LORD bless thee, and keep thee:
The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and
be gracious unto thee:
The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee,
and give thee peace.
Numbers 6: 24-27
Messianic Prophecies Fulfilled by Jesus
Covenant in the End-time
Christian Fish Symbol
Mystery of Life
Once Saved, Always Saved


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

.


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Message 386 of 623 (804786)
04-13-2017 7:02 AM
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04-13-2017 1:38 AM


Re: Giza Location designed
Faith as mentioned the Great Pyramid was built by Enoch as mentioned IN Isiah, and is a testimony written in stone as proof they could have known.

David, Enoch isn't mentioned in Isaiah.

As for proving that Jesus is the Messiah mathematically I believe that was done very well from the prophecy of the 69 weeks in Daniel 9, but it doesn't count to Jesus' birth, it counts to his entrance into Jerusalem on the donkey, which was the announcement of his Kingship/Messiahship. (The anniversary of which incidentally was this last Sunday, known as Palm Sunday.)

I can't read your links, most of them are too hard on my eyes, and the rules here are that you must tell us in your own words what they say and use the link just for a reference.


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Message 387 of 623 (804790)
04-13-2017 8:03 AM


The nonsense of Giza as the center of anything
The idea that Giza is some center of the landmass of the Earth is yet another vestige of ignorance. It was based on old maps and old data. Today, with GIS, GPS and computer mapping systems a far more precise and accurate positioning can be achieved and it turns out that the Centroid of all land mass is actually on the eastern coast of Romania, most likely at the Esmahan Sultan Mosque built by the daughter of Selim II.

And the Great Pyramid at Giza still has absolutely nothing to do with Jesus or why he failed to fulfill the messianic prophecies.


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Message 388 of 623 (804836)
04-13-2017 11:40 AM
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04-13-2017 1:34 AM


Re:
Davidjay writes:

KBERT, you asked about Enoch.. Here is a start to your research, do read his book as well...

The Great Pyramid at Giza, was not designed by Pharaoh but by Enoch, the man who walked with God.’ (Read the
‘Book of Enoch’ – Genesis 5: 24).


Gen 5:24 says nothing about Enoch designing pyramids.

Do you realize that the Book of Enoch is not canonical for either Judaism or Christianity? And that it was written about 300BC, so definitely NOT by Enoch? (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Enoch)

Even so, I find no mention of pyramids (or even of Egypt) in either 1 Enoch or 2 Enoch. Where is your reference that you believe ties Enoch to the pyramids?


"Science without religion is lame, religion without science is blind." Albert Einstein

I am very astonished that the scientific picture of the real world around me is very deficient. It gives us a lot of factual information, puts all of our experience in a magnificently consistent order, but it is ghastly silent about all and sundry that is really near to our heart, that really matters to us. It cannot tell us a word about red and blue, bitter and sweet, physical pain and physical delight; it knows nothing of beautiful and ugly, good or bad, God and eternity. Science sometimes pretends to answer questions in these domains, but the answers are very often so silly that we are not inclined to take them seriously. Erwin Schroedinger


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Message 389 of 623 (804841)
04-13-2017 11:51 AM
Reply to: Message 386 by Faith
04-13-2017 7:02 AM


Re: Giza Location designed
I am telling you over and over and over in my own words.......

Do you want me to describe my own graphics in my own words as well, rather than showing you the original.

All my links relate exactly to the topic or the subject matter or topic.

If you have nothing written previously thats your fault, not mine.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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Davidjay
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Message 390 of 623 (804843)
04-13-2017 11:54 AM
Reply to: Message 388 by kbertsche
04-13-2017 11:40 AM


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If it confirms the Bible as does all of Creation, then it is a confirmation. If all angles confirm, then you can have a confirmed principle.

The cannon of the 1800's, is not the canon of the Lord....and is hardly all inclusive of all that the Lord said and did.

Thats Protestantism to the max, and is what preachers demand, as they twist their canon to intimidate and silence, the dumb into obedience.

Start a new tyhread on this topic if you choose.


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The Lord is the GREAT SCIENTIST as He created SCIENCE and ALL LAWS and ALL MATTER and of course ALL LIFE. God is the Great Architect, Designer and Mathematician. Evolutioon is not mathematical and says there is no DESIGN but that all things came about by sheer LUCK.

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