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Creationist = Anti-Environmentalist?

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Message 11 of 111 (426124)
10-05-2007 11:23 AM 		Reply to: Message 10 by Kitsune
10-05-2007 10:40 AM

Hovind on Global Warming
HOVIND: There is surprisingly little if any proof of global warming. It may be warming, I don't know, but the evidence is really shaky. What would happen with global warming is probably the ice caps would melt raising the ocean level maybe, I don't know, thirty feet. That's perfect. We are in Pensacola, Florida, sixty feet above sea level. If the ocean came up thirty or forty feet we might get beach front property. I mean by the time the waves are done eroding everything away. Do you know what the value of this property would become if it was on the beach? [....]
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ASSISTANT: You know, I've thought of this already. But there is one big problem, floating dead bodies in your front yard
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HOVIND: You would have floating dead bodies [but] only for awhile. [...] Oh yeah, I'm in favour of global warming. Go for it. Start the car, just let it idle. Burn the fuel. Heat up the ozone or whatever they are going to do to it and let's have it. Increase the value of my property.
Truth Radio 17 May 2006 @ 47:00
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That will give you a feeling for his position.
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jar
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10-05-2007 4:20 PM 		Reply to: Message 30 by Hyroglyphx
10-05-2007 4:13 PM

Re: Creationists on the plunder
The same people saying its anthropogenically caused are the same people who predicted the next ice age.
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And Global Warming would likely result in, if not an Ice Age, at least the equivalent of the "Little Ice Age."
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Yes, we want the rapture. But it doesn't mean there is a single thing that anyone can do to expedite the process.
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Of course you cannot bring on the rapture, but you most certainly can bring on Armageddon.
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10-05-2007 4:38 PM 		Reply to: Message 32 by Nuggin
10-05-2007 4:32 PM

Re: Creationists on the plunder
You also need to know that the "Rapture" is one of those things with almost no Biblical support, and really shaky support at that. It's another of those ideas that found support as a plot line to sell books, videos and later CDs to gullible Christians that will buy anything.
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10-05-2007 7:46 PM 		Reply to: Message 44 by Nuggin
10-05-2007 7:38 PM

Re: NJ's Global Warming position.
The point that gets left out of these discussions is that the only part we can do anything about are human actions.
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It really doesn't matter whether Global Warming is wholly human caused, wholly natural or some combination of the two.
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The ONLY thing we can have any control over are the human contributions.
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If we decide that Global Warming is an issue to address, the way we address it is through human actions.
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That is the only option.
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If Global Warming is 100% due to Human Contribution, the thing to do is reduce the Human Contribution.
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If Global Warming is 100% due to Natural Contribution, the thing to do is reduce the Human Contribution.
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If Global Warming is 100% due to a combination of Human and Natural Contribution, the thing to do is reduce the Human Contribution.
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The thing to do is reduce Human contributions and to plan and prepare for the effects.
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