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Author Topic:   Why "YEC" Creationism is BAD for America
Jaf
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Message 137 of 179 (718719)
02-08-2014 4:58 PM
Reply to: Message 128 by ringo
02-08-2014 10:43 AM


Re: Ape-tooth monkey
Actually I think you will the find hellavision is on your side I'm often yelling at the lies that come out of it in relation to so called science.
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Jaf
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Message 138 of 179 (718720)
02-08-2014 5:01 PM
Reply to: Message 123 by RAZD
02-08-2014 7:56 AM


Re: Gap-toothed creationists
You deny insulting my intellect, tisk tisk, it is what you guys do all day long, you claim some intellectual academic higher ground that doesn't exist any more than any moral high ground exists.

Edited by Jaf, : No reason given.


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Coyote
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Message 139 of 179 (718722)
02-08-2014 5:09 PM
Reply to: Message 138 by Jaf
02-08-2014 5:01 PM


You're not doing so well...
I have reviewed the 26 posts you made in this thread and you have yet to make a coherent argument or actually engage in debate.

Your posts consist of one-liners characterized by insults and unsupported claims, generally followed by more insults.

You are becoming the poster-child for the thread's topic, demonstrating Why "YEC" Creationism is BAD for America.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1


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Jaf
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Message 140 of 179 (718723)
02-08-2014 5:18 PM
Reply to: Message 124 by RAZD
02-08-2014 8:07 AM


Re: Gap-toothed creationists
Can you answer my question please? Is creation taught in secular schools and universities as fact in the USA?
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Jaf
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Message 141 of 179 (718724)
02-08-2014 5:21 PM
Reply to: Message 139 by Coyote
02-08-2014 5:09 PM


Re: You're not doing so well...
What would you do with out me? How about answering my question is yec taught as fact in the secular American education system as fact?
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Message 142 of 179 (718725)
02-08-2014 5:23 PM
Reply to: Message 141 by Jaf
02-08-2014 5:21 PM


Re: You're not doing so well...
What would you do with out me?

I don't know, but I'd be willing to try it and see...


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1


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Message 143 of 179 (718726)
02-08-2014 5:25 PM
Reply to: Message 140 by Jaf
02-08-2014 5:18 PM


reality vs fantasy?
Is creation taught in secular schools and universities as fact in the USA?

No. It is against the constitution ...

... But some creationists want to change that ...

... and they advance arguments as intellectually and factually filled as your own.

But outside of school YEC beliefs stunt productive education and development.

Edited by RAZD, : .


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Jaf
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Message 144 of 179 (718728)
02-08-2014 5:35 PM
Reply to: Message 142 by Coyote
02-08-2014 5:23 PM


Re: You're not doing so well...
Think back to three or four days ago and pretend I haven't shown up yet, just like evidence for evolution, your good at pretending. Seriously though if I'm spoiling everyone's science club fun here I truly am happy to leave on my own steam? I Thought creationist faith head insane looney tune sandle wearing rag headed desert god worshiping people who are dangerous for the youth of America were welcome here. I know silly me.

Edited by Jaf, : No reason given.


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Jaf
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Message 145 of 179 (718729)
02-08-2014 5:39 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by RAZD
02-08-2014 5:25 PM


Re: reality vs fantasy?
So what your saying is creationists are seeking a political solution to ensure creationism is taught in schools, is that correct?
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Jaf
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Message 146 of 179 (718730)
02-08-2014 5:43 PM
Reply to: Message 136 by RAZD
02-08-2014 4:57 PM


Re: Gap-toothed creationists
Can you tell me your definition of a creationist please?
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Coyote
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Message 147 of 179 (718731)
02-08-2014 5:44 PM
Reply to: Message 144 by Jaf
02-08-2014 5:35 PM


Re: You're not doing so well...
You have yet to present an argument in favor of your beliefs.

All we've seen so far is sarcasm and insults.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1


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Jaf
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Joined: 01-30-2014


Message 148 of 179 (718732)
02-08-2014 5:48 PM
Reply to: Message 143 by RAZD
02-08-2014 5:25 PM


Re: reality vs fantasy?
I'd like to see the arguments and who they are being presented too, I find it unusual that creationists are seeking a political solution to this issue don't you? As long as our freedom is not curtailed to believe and educate our young, which is clearly what you are trying to have politically removed from us, is that correct, hopefully you will answer me honestly.
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Jaf
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Message 149 of 179 (718733)
02-08-2014 5:50 PM
Reply to: Message 147 by Coyote
02-08-2014 5:44 PM


Re: You're not doing so well...
I have yet to be allowed to get any thread topics past your goon squad, they do a good job of protecting your from having to deal with facts, allowing you to ad hom attack creationists all day long, it really is quite sad.
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Message 150 of 179 (718743)
02-08-2014 5:58 PM
Reply to: Message 149 by Jaf
02-08-2014 5:50 PM


Re: You're not doing so well...
There are specific rules to setting up threads here, mostly to deep the topics tightly focused.

Why don't you try starting a thread with something like "I'm a creationist and this is what I believe..." as the title, then one particular topic following.

Present your specific belief and your argument for it, and suggest which forum it should be placed in.

I bet you'll get it promoted very quickly.


Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.

Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein

How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein

It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers

If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle

If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1


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Jaf
Member (Idle past 1043 days)
Posts: 150
Joined: 01-30-2014


Message 151 of 179 (718756)
02-08-2014 6:46 PM
Reply to: Message 150 by Coyote
02-08-2014 5:58 PM


Re: You're not doing so well...
So the forum is evolution verses creation, and you need me to explain what is meant by creation and what I believe it to be in order to get a thread up here, wow.
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