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ProtoTypical
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Message 31 of 46 (712099)
11-27-2013 6:19 AM
Reply to: Message 29 by New Cat's Eye
11-26-2013 4:27 PM


Re: Some of them are pretty smart now
I pretty sure after 5 minutes of Win8 he's going to be disheartened, especially given that not only did they move the buttons, but they made them invisible and in a completely non-intuitive location.

I am not entirely calcified yet. I love to learn new things but I do not love learning the same thing over and over again. I do enough of that already. Its like changing the position of the letters on the keyboard every 2 yrs. WTF? Change things if it makes them better but otherwise I say leave them alone.


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Message 32 of 46 (712108)
11-27-2013 10:10 AM


I am using a 2006 DELL inspiron running XP I never update, I had to wipe it clean and reinstall once. I love my laptop.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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Message 33 of 46 (712117)
11-27-2013 10:53 AM
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11-27-2013 6:19 AM


Re: Some of them are pretty smart now
ProtoTypical writes:

Change things if it makes them better but otherwise I say leave them alone.


They have to keep changing things to sell the new version. Remember when eveything was advertised as "new and improved"? Nowadays they just have to call it "new" and everybody assumes it's improved, whether it is or not.
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Message 34 of 46 (712119)
11-27-2013 11:54 AM
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11-27-2013 10:10 AM


I think my Latitude is about that old.

Good, stable, little worker.


Love your enemies!

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Message 35 of 46 (712145)
11-27-2013 7:11 PM
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11-27-2013 10:10 AM


I installed ubuntu on mine ... no problems.

Enjoy


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ProtoTypical
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Message 36 of 46 (712165)
11-28-2013 6:34 AM
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11-24-2013 11:05 AM


I suggest running malwarebytes occasionally.

69 items detected.

Why doesn't my McAfee program catch all these things? I pay money for that.


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Message 37 of 46 (712168)
11-28-2013 7:31 AM
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11-28-2013 6:34 AM


Why doesn't my McAfee program catch all these things? I pay money for that.

McAfee catches viruses not malware.


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ProtoTypical
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Message 38 of 46 (712169)
11-28-2013 8:01 AM
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11-28-2013 7:31 AM


That's not what it said on the brochure.

quote:
Antivirus Software, Internet Security, Spyware and Malware Removal ...

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Message 39 of 46 (712172)
11-28-2013 9:15 AM
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11-27-2013 11:54 AM


I think my Latitude is about that old.
Good, stable, little worker.

They can be found at quite reasonable prices. I've owned a couple of them and I'm using a clunky D800 right now. But in my experience, they run hot causing the hard drives to fail prematurely.


Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I believe that a scientist looking at nonscientific problems is just as dumb as the next guy.
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If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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Message 40 of 46 (712176)
11-28-2013 9:40 AM
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11-28-2013 6:34 AM


Mcafee and norton are crap bloatware. Overpriced shit.

Run MS security essentials and malwarebytes. Occasionally have each do a complete scan. In order for these to be effective you have to update them regularly. MS has daily updates to security essentials and defender.

Security essentials is free, malwarebytes
has a nominal cost.


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 41 of 46 (712323)
12-02-2013 4:09 PM
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11-27-2013 6:19 AM


So have you tried Windows 8 yet?
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Message 42 of 46 (712350)
12-03-2013 8:21 AM
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12-02-2013 4:09 PM


Well no not yet, my machine is running smoothly. But again, what do these new OS s do that the old ones don't? It seems like it is mostly furniture arranging to me. Keeps the economy going I guess. Am I not being a good little consumer?

I have a HP Pavilion desk top with Vista gathering dust here. Maybe I will fire that up and see if it works. It is almost pre-aged enough for me to feel comfortable with it. I suppose that I should upgrade my stuff before everything crashes and I lose it all. I have everything backed up on external drives so I figured I could just hang on until the bitter end.


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Message 43 of 46 (712357)
12-03-2013 9:58 AM
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12-03-2013 8:21 AM


Well no not yet, my machine is running smoothly.

I meant, like, trying out a demo at a store.

But again, what do these new OS s do that the old ones don't?

I was really impressed with the new search function of Windows 7. Its not just for files anymore, you can search for functions that the OS performs.

So, say you want to change your screen resolution. You can type into the search box "change screen resolution" and it will pop up with the video settings options.

It seems like it is mostly furniture arranging to me.

There's other stuff that changes behind the scenes too, though. Networking can get easier and more secure. The way the OS implements hardware. Stuff like that that you don't see from your computer chair.

Actually, I just put in a new motherboard in my computer, which runs Windows 7. Normally, that's a whole new build with reinstalling the OS. We decided to just through everything back together to see what happens. Windows fired right up. And it was installed on a Raid 0 on two harddrives. That's actually pretty sweet.


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Message 44 of 46 (712378)
12-03-2013 11:32 AM
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12-03-2013 9:58 AM


A long way from the days of dealing with irq's dma and dealing with dip switches. Tracking down irq conflicts was always fun. But was also fun being able to access all the hardware directly.

Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 45 of 46 (712382)
12-03-2013 11:44 AM
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12-03-2013 11:32 AM


A long way from the days of dealing with irq's dma and dealing with dip switches. Tracking down irq conflicts was always fun.

I'm not that old...

But was also fun being able to access all the hardware directly.

This new motherboard has a 3D bios, which is kinda cool:

I have a different board than that one.


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