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Coragyps
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Message 91 of 160 (715295)
01-03-2014 9:03 AM
Reply to: Message 90 by Percy
01-03-2014 6:37 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
As of twenty years ago, we were not allowed to store a 50-pound sack of potassium chloride inside our lab building at a certain large oilfield service company. It is naturally radioactive (think potassium-argon dating) and some official somewhere had ruled that the hazards were just too high.

Bananas never got ruled on, to my knowledge.


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Message 92 of 160 (715299)
01-03-2014 9:47 AM
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01-03-2014 9:03 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
Bananas are naturally more appealing

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Message 93 of 160 (715301)
01-03-2014 10:20 AM
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01-03-2014 1:36 AM


Nemesis
Fucking lite beer.

No, you don't get any capital letters, bitch.

One day I'll get you, and your little dog, too.

Edited by Stile, : The "dog" is non-alcoholic beer


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Message 94 of 160 (715302)
01-03-2014 10:29 AM
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01-03-2014 6:37 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
Exactly, Percy. Our bodies actually need these things. Ever hear of electrolytes... Gatorade...Who doesn't know this? This friend posts this insanity on a daily basis, from chemtrails poisoning us and toxifying the environment to localized climate manipulation. All by the government. She places 100% trust in the people writing this garbage. I had to reply and haven't heard a word since.

Critical thinking and skepticism should be taught from 1st grade on.


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Message 95 of 160 (715305)
01-03-2014 10:59 AM
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01-03-2014 10:29 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
Don't you know that the chem-trail chemicals that they put in airplane fuel are inflammable explosives and are what really caused the Trade Towers to explode and fall?

(pitting one conspiracy against another, such fun)

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Message 96 of 160 (715306)
01-03-2014 11:04 AM
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01-02-2014 10:14 PM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
Here is an excellent example of the garbage flooding facebook:

Well, not just facebook, but the whole internet and before that TV, well, TV still.

There is that infomercial nutjob, Kevin Trudeau, who sells a book, Natural Cures “They” Don’t Want You to Know About. He claims that the medical establishment wants us to all stay sick so they can make more money.

A few years ago I got on some nutjob's email list and everyday I got emails about the dangers of stupid things like KCl in drinking water. Eventually I was able to get dropped after I sent a bunch of really rude responses.

I use facebook to keep track of family and a few friends and colleagues and to post photos.

I find it fascinating that facebook has become this weird self propelled thing that hundreds of millions of people use and that it has made billions of dollars for the people at the top.


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Message 97 of 160 (715307)
01-03-2014 11:38 AM
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01-03-2014 9:03 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
Coragyps writes:

It is naturally radioactive (think potassium-argon dating) and some official somewhere had ruled that the hazards were just too high.

Bananas never got ruled on, to my knowledge.


My trivia question: What are the three most radioactive things in Saskatchewan?

Answer: uranium, potash and people. (I would also accept bananas.)


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Message 98 of 160 (715308)
01-03-2014 11:47 AM
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01-03-2014 10:59 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
RAZD snarks
Don't you know that the chem-trail chemicals that they put in airplane fuel are inflammable explosives and are what really caused the Trade Towers to explode and fall?

Ooo, oo...he used the word "inflammable".....


- xongsmith, 5.7d

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Message 99 of 160 (715309)
01-03-2014 11:53 AM
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01-03-2014 11:04 AM


or something else
Meanwhile the food industry is adding more and more chemicals to corporate raised foods with questionable results

http://www.reuters.com/...ecial-report-idUSBRE9BT0NV20131230

quote:
- The U.S. beef industry's dependence on the muscle-building drug Zilmax began unraveling here, on a sweltering summer day, in the dusty cattle pens outside a Tyson Foods Inc slaughterhouse in southeastern Washington state.

As cattle trailers that had traveled up to four hours in 95-degree heat began to unload, 15 heifers and steers hobbled down the ramps on August 5, barely able to walk. The reason: The animals had lost their hooves, according to U.S. Department of Agriculture documents reviewed by Reuters. The documents show the 15 animals were destroyed.

The next day, the hottest day of the month, two more animals with missing hooves arrived by truck. Again, the animals were destroyed, the documents show.

Reports that Zilmax causes lameness in some animals have raised concerns about the tradeoffs associated with a drug that adds up to 33 pounds of marketable meat to a 1,300-pound steer and has helped some feedlots stay in business at a time of punishing industry consolidation.


For 2.5% weight gain ...

Another reason to be off commercial beef.

Enjoy


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Diomedes
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Message 100 of 160 (715310)
01-03-2014 12:24 PM
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01-03-2014 11:38 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
My trivia question: What are the three most radioactive things in Saskatchewan?
Answer: uranium, potash and people. (I would also accept bananas.)

I guess if you were asking about Ontario, Rob Ford would have to be on that list.


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roxrkool
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Message 101 of 160 (715311)
01-03-2014 12:40 PM
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01-03-2014 11:04 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
Sometimes it's quite shocking and enlightening to find out what people think about the world. I have white supremacists, racists, religious fanatics / creationists, new age kooks, and conspiracists as friends on fb; plus my dad who no longer has a public filter and posts comments regarding private conversations I've had with him.

All I know is that I'm happy there was no facebook when I was younger. Those things are better left in the deep dark recesses of my mind.


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Message 102 of 160 (715313)
01-03-2014 12:51 PM
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01-03-2014 11:47 AM


inflammable
yeah, I thought I would try to confuse the easily confused


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Message 103 of 160 (715320)
01-03-2014 4:59 PM
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01-03-2014 12:40 PM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
I don't have Facebook and have no plans to have it. I really have no desire to know what is going on day to day with my family and friends. Do I miss out on some stuff?
Yeah.
But it is better then to get the overload of their daily lives.

Also, FB is notorious for disregarding privacy issues(I sometimes think the people that use FB have no idea how much FB has monetized their private information or even how FB makes money). I have no desire to see my life splayed across the intertubes.

Edited by Theodoric, : use not sue


Facts don't lie or have an agenda. Facts are just facts

"God did it" is not an argument. It is an excuse for intellectual laziness.


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Message 104 of 160 (715353)
01-04-2014 11:18 AM
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01-02-2014 8:13 AM


Re: The smoldering of EvC
Why isn't some of your vituperation directed at people like Marc?

Oh great, another religious war. Sounds like fun! Faith could be Mary Queen of Scots and Marc could play a Huguenot.


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Message 105 of 160 (715399)
01-05-2014 7:01 AM
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01-02-2014 8:27 AM


The Unwitnessed / Prehistoric Past
The many ways it's possible to completely misread something I write continues to astonish me and I know it's a lost cause to try again now so why am I trying? Aaagh. I don't know. As crazy as all of you I guess.

The phrase "unwitnessed past" seems to have thrown a bunch of you into some kind of mental swamp. Would it help if I changed it to "prehistoric past?" I shudder at the possibilities for garbling that one too.

I get the utterly irrelevant response from Jon that "witnesses are notoriously unreliable" as if that had anything whatever to do with the point, and from Vimesey oh gosh what was it he said that made my ulcer act up? Some idea I think the scientist must have been there to witness it? It could make a person long for the forgetfulness of total senility. Ah bliss.

I don't know why creationists keep repeating this silly idea about unobserved past events being indecipherable or uninterpretable. They must be terribly outraged every time someone's convicted by forensic evidence.

Sigh. Pass the Mylanta please.

Criminal Forensics is NOT about the UNWITNESSED / PREHISTORIC PAST. There are plenty of witnesses of all kinds to help the forensic investigator decipher the clues of a case. There are legal documents, case histories, and yes even scientific documents that may help in a particular case and are in the sense I'm using the word "witnesses." There are also people who may have known the victim or might know something about the circumstances, who may be tracked down and interviewed, there are all kinds of potential witnesses in such cases. There may be surveillance camera footage these days, I mean there's TONS of stuff available because it all goes on within our own time frame in which billions of PEOPLE, and their writings and their technological capabilities, are all potential witnesses of some aspect or another of the case in hand.

But Geology, oh I guess I should say Historical Geology, thanks to Roxie for the interesting paper she linked somewhere on that subject, Historical Geology studies things that exist in a time frame where there are no witnesses of any sort whatever. Well, there IS the Biblical account of course, but for all intents and purposes Historical Geology proceeds as if it didn't exist, alas, so since it doesn't exist then there are NO witnesses of any sort whatever to help them out.

It's NOT that you cannot know ANYTHING AT ALL about the situations of the unwitnessed / prehistoric past, of course not. You certainly know from the fossil record, for instance, that at some time in the past creatures walked the earth that no longer exist in our modern world. But all the hooha about how and when they lived is just wild interpretation, which you can get away with because there are no witnesses in the sense I'm using that word to correct you if you're wrong. No dinosaur wrote an account of the Great Extinction event as he saw it coming, as the sky was darkening and his fellow creatures were suffocating. You CAN go on multiplying error indefinitely because of the -- shall we say -- flexibility of interpretations, and the momentum gained by the particular interpretive scheme you've adopted that is shared by all your colleagues.

Oh how I dread the nonsense THIS post is going to elicit. Aaagh.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Edited by Faith, : No reason given.


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