Loony Of The Week

I spent 15 minutes over at Evoution Fairy Tales - a site I was banned from without warning or explanation after half a dozen posts a couple of years ago. I see Mike the Wiz is cock of the roost over there where his logical loonacies go uncorrected.Anyhoo, this post caught my eye amongst the multifarious madness. This guy is apparently a thearpist. The post was, of course, typed in large bold print, double spaced, I'll save you from that but the spelling is what it is.

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In many cases believing in evolution is like fiddling while Rome burns. Evo is a diversion--a ruse to concfuse people as to the most common cause of human distubance and dysfunction. The philosophical spin off of evolution is the power of "it".

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In the Bible God says he gave us dominion over the environment. Evolution claims just the opposite--that the einvironment caused us and our disturbaances also. "It' made me mad etc. Instead of I made myself mad over it.

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As a therapist for the last 35 years I have been explaining that external events and circumstance do not cause our disurbance but the tree of good and evil in the midst of the conemporaary garden of eden our mind.

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The theeoy of Evolution is a ridiculous concept created by a tree of good and evil called Charles Darwin.

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Unless there is pathology, the only thing that can disturb us is our own mind!--the deception Adam & Eve fell victim to in the orignal Garden of Eden when they ate of Satan's tree (a mixture o good and evil)

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Thik about this.

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Ramoss, you should. Those tracts are sure to turn lots of people away fom religions.

.Edited by Minnemooseus, : Duplicate.

There actually is a half baked legitimate reason for that. As I understand it, he has a vision problem and thus likes using the larger print and spacing. Someone once tried to teach him the concept of (control +) to zoom to get larger print, but the lesson did not take.Moose

Many normals may not be aware of the fact that "true Christians" need to use their own special kind of counselors and therapists. That is because "true Christians" do not think like normals do.Dan Barker (Freedom From Religion Foundation, "America's Leading Atheist") described it when I first heard him speak in the mid-1980's shortly after he had deconverted from a life-long belief in fundamentalism (he had also been a fundamentalist minister having been personally called to the ministry at age 11 by God Himself). In that speech, Barker described fundamentalism as being when your theology becomes your psychology. All your thought processes become based on fundamentalist theology and you filter everything you see and hear and think and feel through that theology (please also refer to Glenn R. Morton's talk.origins Post of the Month for February 2002, "Morton's Demon" which describes aspects of that regarding YECs). Add to that the collected experiences of all us normals here who have ever tried to reason with YECs or just about any fundamentalist. They quite literally think differently than us normals, hence they need their own special counselors.I have personally seen this in action. A local mega-church's singles ministry organized huge presentations by a pair of Christian counselors which was very strongly attended (huge main chapel auditorium much more than half filled by singles from at least two local megachurches). A number of things that they said was the same as is said by counselors for normals (eg, setting boundaries, being selective of the people you associate with in terms of where they will lead you), but then they would always go weird. Well, weird to a normal, but right on target for a fundie. For example, there are things that you need to do to straighten out your life. Why should you do that? Because that is what Jesus wants you to do. Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot-Oscar? So then if you are not a Christian, there is no reason for you to try to make your life better? Really?? Similarly in the DivorceCare program they not only state explicitly, but they repeat it over and over again that you can never ever possibly recover from a divorce, but rather only Jesus can do it for you. So then non-Christians are just plain screwed? Thank you very much, sir! May I have another one please? (somebody please identify that first speaking part in a movie for Kevin Bacon)I am living evidence that Christian counselors are of worse than no help to normals. Similarly, I would assume, fundamentalists are unable to find help from normal counselors. Sad as it sounds, that bat-quano-crazy "therapist" is perhaps the only kind of person that a fundamentalist can listen to as a counselor. Which to me speaks of a much more serious problem.

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Since we are not supposed to present bare links, here are some excerpts from "Morton's Demon":

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Maxwell suggested a famous demon which could violate the laws of thermodynamics. The demon, sitting between two rooms, controls a gate between the two rooms. When the demon sees a speedy molecule coming his way (from room A), he opens the gate and lets the speedy molecule leave the room and when he sees a slow molecule coming at the gate (from room A), he holds it closed. Oppositely, when he sees a speedy molecule coming at the gate from room B he closes the gate but when he sees a slow molecule from room B coming toward the gate he opens it. In this way, the demon segregates the fast moving molecules into one room from the slow ones in the other. Since temperature of a gas is related to the velocity of the molecules, the demon would increase the temperature of room B and cool room A without any expenditure of energy. And since a temperature difference can be used to create useful work, the demon would create a perpetual motion machine.

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The reason I mention this is because I realized tonight that the YECs have a demon of their own. In a conversation with a YEC, I mentioned certain problems which he needed to address. Instead of addressing them, he claimed that he didn't have time to do the research. With other YECs, I have found that this is not the case (like with sds@mp3.com who refused my offer to discuss the existence of the geologic column by stating "It's on my short list of topics to pursue here. It's not up next, but perhaps before too long." Message-ID: a3bv4t$v2m$1@slb1.atl.mindspring.net ) And with other YECs, they claim lack of expertise to evaluate the argument and thus won't make a judgment about the validity of the criticism. Still other YECs refuse to read things that might disagree with them.

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Thus was born the realization that there is a dangerous demon on the loose. When I was a YEC, I had a demon that did similar things for me that Maxwell's demon did for thermodynamics. Morton's demon was a demon who sat at the gate of my sensory input apparatus and if and when he saw supportive evidence coming in, he opened the gate. But if he saw contradictory data coming in, he closed the gate. In this way, the demon allowed me to believe that I was right and to avoid any nasty contradictory data. Fortunately, I eventually realized that the demon was there and began to open the gate when he wasn't looking.

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However, my conversations have made me aware that each YEC is a victim of my demon. Morton's demon makes it possible for a person to have his own set of private facts which others are not privy to, allowing the YEC to construct a theory which is perfectly supported by the facts which the demon lets through the gate. And since these are the only facts known to the victim, he feels in his heart that he has explained everything. Indeed, the demon makes people feel morally superior and more knowledgeable than others.

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The demon makes its victim feel very comfortable as there is no contradictory data in view. The demon is better than a set of rose colored glasses. The demon's victim does not understand why everyone else doesn't fall down and accept the victim's views. After all, the world is thought to be as the victim sees it and the demon doesn't let through the gate the knowledge that others don't see the same thing. Because of this, the victim assumes that everyone else is biased, or holding those views so that they can keep their job, or, in an even more devious attack by my demon, they think that their opponents are actually demon possessed themselves or sons of Satan. This is a devious demon!

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Do please follow that link to read the entire post and be able to use the embedded links (assuming that they are not already broken).It should also be noted that Maxwell's Demon is a thermodynamics thought experiment. Not that any YEC has ever understood thermodynamics.

I suspect people will have figured this already, but Mr Newth's letter is taken from Viz, an anarchic comic book here in the UK, which features a couple of pages of comedy letters like this one, sent in by the readership. Here's Mr Newth's twitter feed about it: https://mobile.twitter.com/adriannewthIt's still funny though :-)

The letter section of Viz, btw, is known as "Letterbocks".Viz aficionados see the "bocks" part of it less as a homonym and more as an abbreviation...Edited by vimesey, : Typo

Funnily enough I was back in the UK on a brief business trip last week and bought a Viz (as I tend to do when I visit). Letterbocks included this delight:

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I can't be the only person to have noticed that the 2016 tidal-wave of British 'national treasure' deaths has somewhat dried up following the Brexit vote? Looks like those mealy-mouthed EU bureaucrats will have to find some other poor country upon which to impose their fascist celebrity death quotas.

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The internet's finest amateur detectives are now working ceaselessly to identify the true identity of the ringleader, a shadowy figure known only as "Papa John".Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.

15 year anniversary of my evcforum.net registration.Moose

and this makes you the Loony Of The Week? Maybe because you have been here so long... Seriously though...happy anniversary! I think the American Voter already won Loony Of This Week at least.

This one sentence prompted me to read your entire post. Good work!

From Right Wing Watch. Because we know of only two things that can move rocks: giants and magic. Gotta be one or the other.

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e all know about Stonehenge, right? That’s just one of hundreds and hundreds of gigantic places around the world that testify that some sort of supernatural power or giants were involved in its construction.

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Right on Lindsay! Don't let those globalists get to you...Lol!