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Author Topic:   The fossile record conclusively disproves evolution
herebedragons
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Message 4 of 342 (717857)
02-02-2014 8:27 AM
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02-02-2014 8:07 AM


Strangely, every page at that website has "Bs'd" near the top. I'm pretty sure it doesn't mean what English speaking readers might think, but I don't know what it does mean.
It either means
quote:
Besiyata Dishmaya (Aramaic: בסיעתא דשמיא) is an Aramaic phrase, meaning "with the help of Heaven".
or
quote:
Big Swinging Dick. A front office 'player' in sell-side or a hedge fund. An executive who is personally responsible for bringing revenue in.
HBD

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.

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herebedragons
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Message 21 of 342 (717903)
02-02-2014 10:24 PM
Reply to: Message 16 by Eliyahu
02-02-2014 4:19 PM


Stick with the first meaning.
LOL. I figured that was it, but the other meaning popped up as the second hit, and I just couldn't resist.
(from Message 1)
This should be enough to settle the whole evolution vs creation debate.
It's hard to believe a few out-of-context quotes could settle the entire debate. I think you need to provide a few of your own arguments.
So there we have it: NO evolution, but sudden appearance and stasis.
Your quotes do not really support this conclusion, do they? Gould and Eldredge argued against gradualism, not evolution itself.
I don't really have a problem with you quoting Gould and Eldredge, even out of context like this, but you need to develop your own arguments and show how their statements support your premise. You are using their arguments as if Gould and Eldredge themselves have reach the same conclusion as you and that is what is dishonest.
Let's hear your own personal arguments to see if you even have a clue about what the issues are.
HBD

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.

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herebedragons
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Message 52 of 342 (717949)
02-03-2014 10:26 AM
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02-03-2014 6:59 AM


This is totally incompatible with evolution, and totally supports creation.
So is your position that the earth is old and God created a new species every million years or so, or by creation do you mean a literal 6 days?
There is A LOT more where this came from
Ooooh the sheer volume of evidence against evolution is underwhelming.
In context, out of context, it doesn't matter, because the context does not in any way alter the meaning of the quotes.
So the context is irrelevant.
Yeah, this is the way so many handle the Bible (or in your case, the Torah?). Pluck out a verse and make it mean what you want it to.
I'm not a paleontologist, so my personal arguments on the fossil record are irrelevant.
But Gould and Eldredge are not here to defend themselves or to present their arguments. You, however, are.
What I do is I show what big shot evolutionists say about the fossil record
Your whole argument is simply an argument from authority (albeit a kinda backwards one) - which is a logical fallacy.
Even if I was, it would be said that because i'm a creationist, my arguments would not be valid,
I can't speak for everyone here, but I would judge your arguments based on their own merit, not on what your personal beliefs are. I would like to think that others here would too.
More likely the problem is you really don't understand the arguments, you are simply parroting them. Squaaaaawwwkk!
HBD

Whoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca
"Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem.
Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.

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