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Alabama minister convicted of disorderly conduct in same-sex marriage case

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A Prattville minister arrested after offering to perform a same-sex wedding inside the Autauga County Courthouse in February pleaded guilty Monday to misdemeanor disorderly conduct.

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Anne Susan DiPrizio, 44, was sentenced to 30 days in the Autauga Metro Jail, which was suspended in lieu of six months unsupervised probation, the Montgomery Advertiser reported. She was ordered to pay a $250 fine and other court costs.
minister arrested.pngAnne Susan DiPrizio (ACSO)Erin Edgemon | eedgemon@al.com

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According to reports, DiPrizio, a Unitarian minister, offered to marry a lesbian couple on Feb. 10 in the Autauga County Probate Office and wouldn't leave the office when asked by probate office officials.

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Probate Judge Al Booth had stopped holding marriage ceremonies in his office on Feb. 9.

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A Christian minister jailed by state for practicing religious freedom -- there's an example for you Faith ...EnjoyEdited by RAZD, : ..

If I put my mind to it I'm sure I could come up with a long list of big name makers of Western Civilization who disagree with that. But what I've discovered is that nobody here cares, you'll make your own list of names you like better.

R.C. Sproul is about the biggest in the country at the moment, but I suppose the anti-Christian mentality doesn't keep up with these things.

Um, a law that specifically criminalizes a Bible teaching probably isn't going to bother anyone who doesn't believe in the Bible anyway. It COULD target Jews as well as Christians, so that could yet happen. I don't think it will be tested on Muslims because they are more or less a protected class themselves these days.At the moment this is an attitude one picks up from the Zeitgeist, attitudes, angry opinions. When the persecutions start you'll probably know it.Maybe.

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R.C. Sproul is about the biggest in the country at the moment

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I've heard the name but I don't know how important he is as a theologian.But the big question. Is whether he's lying or just ignorant.

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but I suppose the anti-Christian mentality doesn't keep up with these things.

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What makes you think that you don't ?

Interesting that nobody REALLY addressed my question. Would you have second thoughts if the numbers of Christians losing their businesses, being fined or going to jail for standing on their Biblical commitments against laws that target those commitments, was way beyond anything you expect? Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

He merely put into words what Bible-believers are feeling these days as we watch the gay marriage support spread and escalate.

Some Bible "believers". Note the quotes around believers since we know for a fact that many who claim to believe the Bible simply don't in reality but rather believe the apologists instead of what is actually written.R.C. Sproul certainly falls into that category.

Yeah, a lot of this flap has to do with pseudoChristians such as yourself redefining what a Bible believing Christian is. So what shall I call us? Bible Inerrantists?Whatever, my question has to do with whether anybody's attitudes would change if huge numbers of us "fundamentalists" or "Bible inerrantists" become criminals as a result of these laws that we won't obey because they oppose the Bible, according to US, no matter what YOU prefer to call us. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

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He merely put into words what Bible-believers are feeling these days as we watch the gay marriage support spread and escalate.

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Then the fact that it is untrue says a lot about you self-styled "Bible-believers"

So should I assume that if huge numbers of us "self-styled 'Bible believers'" are criminalized for our views of what the Bible says you won't have second thoughts, but take the position that we deserve it?

"criminalizes a Bible teaching"?What law would that be? A law that allowed gays to marry? How does that criminalize your bible? How does that criminalize you?I think because of your assumed christian privilege you think that ignoring you and your bible's bigotry that you and your bigoted bible have somehow been named as criminal.You and your bible are not criminal, Faith, just ignored.When you take bigoted actions like discriminating in providing service in the public marketplace then that action is criminal. The criminal is the bigot doing the actual harmful bigotry, not your bible.Guess what? Your fear-mongering bigoted priests are not going to be arrested for preaching fear-mongering bigoted things. That is allowed in this country.You can continue to read your bible, Faith. You and yours can continue to preach from it, pray to it, wave signs with passages from it all you want. Nothing criminal there. Just like with your bible's bigotry against gays, the rest of the public will just ignore its other evil rantings.No arrest, no jail, no lions.

You mean if huge numbers of you "self-styled 'Bible believers'" viciously discriminate against fellow human beings like not serving them in your businesses just like you once didn't want to serve blacks? You mean if huge numbers of you "self-styled 'Bible believers'" become criminals by your own deliberate actions?Well then, you're right. We will have no second thoughts. We will take the position that you deserve it since you deliberately acted against the law and did it to yourselves.The more of you that go bust and close up business the more room in the marketplace there will be for un-hate-filled christians and others to open businesses in your place.

Yes, that's pretty much what I expected you to say, but I wonder if it's really true, if thousands really were criminalized for our beliefs if you'd have no qualms about it at all. Perhaps you would, but I still wonder.Edited by Faith, : No reason given.

Well, sure, you aren't going to have any complaints about "Christians" who reject what the Bible teaches about homosexuality and about marriage. But are you really going to be able to hold onto your justification for criminalizing Bible inerrantists if you see thousands of us in that position? Perhaps, but I wonder.