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Author Topic:   Fossil Record Mistakes and Why They Don't Hurt Evolution
Dr Adequate
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Message 8 of 13 (729536)
06-13-2014 11:17 AM
Reply to: Message 7 by TryingToBeLogical
06-13-2014 10:56 AM


The funny thing is, I checked the web, and found creationist articles actually saying that Archaeopteryx wasn't a bird at all, but an altered Compsognathus. Based only on the fossil in the British Museum.
I've seen the same person say both in consecutive sentences. Here's Jolly F. Griggs, in his pamphlet Evolution 101:
Fred Hoyle and Chandra Wick-Ramasinghe have made a strong case for fossil forgery in their book Archaeopteryx, The Primordial Bird. This reviewer of the book was convinced. Taking the fossil at face value, the fossil was a complete bird, not half reptile and half bird.
So it's a "complete bird" and it's a Compsognathus with feathers stuck on.

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Dr Adequate
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Message 12 of 13 (729555)
06-13-2014 2:44 PM


Unfossilized Dinosaurs
One of their weirder things about creationists is their pretense that there were recent (non-avian) dinosaurs. What makes it weirder than most creationist nonsense is that it's entirely pointless, we could find the Lost World of Conan Doyle tomorrow and it wouldn't affect evolution in the slightest. They don't seem to have grasped that there are some true propositions about biology that aren't the theory of evolution; the fact that non-avian dinosaurs are extinct is one of them.
This blunder leads them expend their energy on pretending that there are unmineralized dinosaurs in the fossil record. There seem to be two sources for this. The most recent is Mary Schweitzer and her work in extracting soft tissue from inside dinosaur bones. But the soft tissue was mineralized, they had to demineralize it, as Schweitzer states in her paper:
Removal of the mineral phase reveals transparent, flexible, hollow blood vessels containing small round microstructures that can be expressed from the vessels into solution. Some regions of the demineralized bone matrix are highly fibrous, and the matrix possesses elasticity and resilience.
The second and earlier source of this nonsense stems from a fossil found in Alaska. It took me some time to track down the origin of the error, because 99.9% of creationists don't give references. But eventually I traced the error to creationists' inability to understand this paper.
Here we can see a creationist talking nonsense about it under the title "Unfossilized Dinosaur Bones", which they aren't. An examination of the creationist nonsense reveals the exact source of the error. The creationist writes:
"The quality of preservation is remarkable. The bones are stained a dark red brown but otherwise display little permineralization, crushing, or distortion." Like to take a guess what "little permineralization" means? For bones that are claimed to be at least 65 million years old, that has to be remarkable indeed, doesn't it?
That pretty much says it all, doesn't it? She took a guess what "permineralization" means, instead of spending five seconds looking it up on google.
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