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Dr Adequate Member (Idle past 306 days) Posts: 16113 Joined:
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Unlike my geology book, I'm not going to post it here in installments, because I would like this one to be published by a real publisher on laminae fabricated from the corpses of innocent trees.
However, if anyone here would like a look at it in advance, so as to supply me with some criticism before I start submitting it to publishers, I would be grateful for the feedback. And the rest of you can just wish me luck.
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nwr Member Posts: 6409 From: Geneva, Illinois Joined: Member Rating: 5.3 |
Yes, I would be interested in an advance look. And I'd be happy to send my criticism and/or comments.
You probably want an email address. We can use the messaging system for that. If you are interested in my participation, just send a PM.Fundamentalism - the anti-American, anti-Christian branch of American Christianity
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Pressie Member Posts: 2103 From: Pretoria, SA Joined: |
Good luck, Doc.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
I hope you are honest about the fact that the historical sciences that purport to know things about the past, that can't be known because they can't be tested, aren't really subject to scientific method.
Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2
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Saying things you know to be false isn't being honest, Faith.
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Faith  Suspended Member (Idle past 1466 days) Posts: 35298 From: Nevada, USA Joined: |
By now you ought to know that I'm deadly serious about this, am certainly not being dishonest, believe it absolutely that historical science is not testable science but just a tissue of assumptions and conjectures.
Why don't we try to prove some tenet of historical science and see if we can find out just how it conforms or doesn't conform to scientific method. Take Siccar Point perhaps, or the Great Unconformity in the GC, or you pick one. Here is a Wikipedia article on Scientific Method for reference, or offer one of your own. Edited by Faith, : No reason given. Edited by Faith, : No reason given.
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PaulK Member Posts: 17825 Joined: Member Rating: 2.2 |
And by now you ought to know that it isn't true. It's certainly not as if you have adequately addressed the rebuttals,
If you really want to discuss it start a new thread explaining why all the tests that have been done on radiometric dating methods don't count.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined:
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By now you ought to know that I'm deadly serious about this, am certainly not being dishonest, believe it absolutely that historical science is not testable science but just a tissue of assumptions and conjectures. Then you are being willfully dishonest Faith. Things leave evidence which certainly can be tested.Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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Coyote Member (Idle past 2127 days) Posts: 6117 Joined: |
I hope you are honest about the fact that the historical sciences that purport to know things about the past, that can't be known because they can't be tested, aren't really subject to scientific method. You believe whatever fairy tales you need to keep your house of cards from falling down around your ears, but don't tell those of us who actually study the past what we can and can't do. And as far as the scientific method is concerned, you have shown time and again that you reject it totally. You have no right to even think about it, let alone comment on it.Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge. Belief gets in the way of learning--Robert A. Heinlein How can I possibly put a new idea into your heads, if I do not first remove your delusions?--Robert A. Heinlein It's not what we don't know that hurts, it's what we know that ain't so--Will Rogers If I am entitled to something, someone else is obliged to pay--Jerry Pournelle If a religion's teachings are true, then it should have nothing to fear from science...--dwise1 "Multiculturalism" does not include the American culture. That is what it is against.
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Stile Member Posts: 4295 From: Ontario, Canada Joined: |
Good luck with the process and all that!
Oh, and I would like to be mentioned somewhere in the book....not because I helped or contributed in any way, I've just always wanted to be mentioned in a published book. Preferably positively.
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jar Member (Idle past 415 days) Posts: 34026 From: Texas!! Joined: |
And not posthumously.
Anyone so limited that they can only spell a word one way is severely handicapped!
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NoNukes Inactive Member |
Here is a Wikipedia article on Scientific Method for reference, or offer one of your own. Typical Faith unhelpful post. A bare link which when followed provides absolutely nothing helpful to her argument. At least you aren't posting your non-science in the science forums this time. I thought perhaps you'd learned something about endorsing web pages that you had not even read. ABE: I thought I'd demonstrate a more useful post. If some point of a large article is helpful, and you actually have a point to make, you might supplement your link thusly: Historical and operational science - RationalWiki
quote: Of course you won't do that if you are just blowing smoke. Edited by NoNukes, : Add link, quote.Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846) I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass
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herebedragons Member (Idle past 879 days) Posts: 1517 From: Michigan Joined: |
Sounds interesting.
Would you be willing to post a general outline, perhaps the topics that each chapter covers, how long the book is; something like that? HBDWhoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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herebedragons Member (Idle past 879 days) Posts: 1517 From: Michigan Joined: |
quote: Do you know what Ham actually said, because I find it hard to believe that he would openly, and distinctly admit that since it is so crucial to the YEC position. HBDWhoever calls me ignorant shares my own opinion. Sorrowfully and tacitly I recognize my ignorance, when I consider how much I lack of what my mind in its craving for knowledge is sighing for... I console myself with the consideration that this belongs to our common nature. - Francesco Petrarca "Nothing is easier than to persuade people who want to be persuaded and already believe." - another Petrarca gem. Ignorance is a most formidable opponent rivaled only by arrogance; but when the two join forces, one is all but invincible.
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Tanypteryx Member Posts: 4411 From: Oregon, USA Joined: Member Rating: 5.4 |
Well done! Good luck.
I would like to look. I will message my email address.What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy
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