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Dr Adequate

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Message 29 of 740 (733757)
07-21-2014 1:01 AM

Reply to: Message 22 by Faith
07-20-2014 10:31 PM

Re: observed net erosion deposition must occur somewhere

Faith, you know how I keep telling you that you don't know anything about geology? Well, this would be a case in point.

One sees this again and again with creationists, they become obsessed with a subject which, paradoxically, they're not remotely interested in. Could you not bring yourself to take an interest, find out the first damn thing about the rocks you're talking about, such as their composition? And until you've done that, could you stop prancing around in public pretending you know better about geology than geologists do?

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Message 37 of 740 (733769)
07-21-2014 5:29 AM

Reply to: Message 34 by Faith
07-21-2014 3:48 AM

Re: Defining the Geo Column again

I don't see what you think is so superior about the definition you put up.

It's correct. It has that going for it.

Look, geologists get to say what geological terms of art mean, just like physicists get to decide what "quark" means and musicologists get to say what a flatted fifth is. If you want to talk about something else, you need to invent a new word. Any other approach can only cause confusion, or, in your case, more confusion.

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Message 40 of 740 (733773)
07-21-2014 6:00 AM

Reply to: Message 32 by Faith
07-21-2014 3:19 AM

Re: Defining the Geo Column again

I've been hesitant to post anything by a creationist but I think this article by Steve Austin brings up some important points about the Geologic Column. For one thing it is very clear that he understands itg to be a very specific formation of sedimentary strata [...] The Geologic Column is a specific recognizable formation of sedimentary strata that is found as partial stacks here and there, some more complete than others but none fully complete. Austin also makes clear that the individual strata ARE identifiable as separate recognizable sediments.

And yet what he writes (correctly) is:

Misconception No. 5. Because each strata system has distinctive lithologic composition, a newly discovered stratum can be assigned easily to its correct position in the geologic column.

Sandstone, limestone, dolomite, shale, chert, salt, conglomerate, coal and other rock types are not diagnostic of specific strata systems. Therefore, a rock's physical appearance cannot, with certainty, distinguish the system or strata level to which a rock may belong.

Insofar as your blather has any apparent meaning, Austin is saying the exact opposite.

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Message 43 of 740 (733783)
07-21-2014 8:30 AM

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07-21-2014 7:55 AM

Re: Defining the Geo Column again

To be fair to Austin, he only says it's a misconception, he doesn't say who holds it. Maybe it's a common delusion among YECs and he's trying to correct that.

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