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Author Topic:   Why Did Homo Erectus Not Retain a Tail?
Capt Stormfield
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Message 16 of 68 (734467)
07-29-2014 11:47 PM
Reply to: Message 15 by subbie
07-29-2014 11:23 PM


I think having no legs would be best, balance-wise.

Assuming we could also evolve away the external genitalia.


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Dr Adequate
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Message 17 of 68 (734499)
07-30-2014 4:00 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by mram10
07-26-2014 11:45 AM


A tail would be incredibly helpful for balance (tripod example)

If you genuinely feel the deficiency, you could always remedy God's blunder by strapping a broomhandle to your ass. Then you'd be a tripod, solving your balance problem.

If, on the other hand, this is just some dumb talking point that drifted into your head while you were drunk, then in the sober light of morning you'll probably decide that you can get by without a prosthetic tail.

Let us know which you do.


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subbie
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Message 18 of 68 (734527)
07-30-2014 9:36 AM
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07-29-2014 11:47 PM


Assuming we could also evolve away the external genitalia.

I don't know about you *, but my genitalia aren't nearly big enough to interfere with my balance.

*This is not a request for information.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung


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Capt Stormfield
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Message 19 of 68 (734528)
07-30-2014 9:43 AM
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07-30-2014 9:36 AM


I was thinking more along the lines of comfort when dropping out of the tree and landing on the hard, hard ground.
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Message 20 of 68 (734540)
07-30-2014 12:01 PM
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07-29-2014 11:23 PM


"Mrs. Wiggins, can Billy come out and play baseball with us?"
--" Tommy, you know Billy doesn't have arms or legs" --
"Well, he can be second base!"

my apologies......I'm going to crawl back to Junior High now...


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Message 21 of 68 (734542)
07-30-2014 12:14 PM
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07-30-2014 12:01 PM


Warning, bad taste:

Why did God give women legs?

He saw the mess that the slugs were making.

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Message 22 of 68 (734559)
07-30-2014 5:08 PM
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07-30-2014 9:36 AM


but man do it hurt when jumping on ones ten speed.

"You were not there for the beginning. You will not be there for the end. Your knowledge of what is going on can only be superficial and relative" William S. Burroughs

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NoNukes
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Message 23 of 68 (734569)
07-30-2014 8:39 PM


Who dealt this mess?
Where is mram10?

Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


    
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Message 24 of 68 (734571)
07-30-2014 9:30 PM
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07-30-2014 12:01 PM


What's the name of a boy with no arms and no legs floating in the ocean?
Bob.

What's the name of a boy with no arms and no legs laying in front of a door?
Matt.

What's the name of a boy with no arms and no legs hanging on the wall?
Art.

What's the name of a boy with no arms and no legs in an oil field?
Derrick.

What's the name of a boy with no arms and no legs flying over the fence?
Homer.

What's the name of a girl with no arms and no legs between two piece of bread?
Patty.

What's the name of a girl with no arms and no legs on a clothes line?
Peg.


Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions. -- Thomas Jefferson

We see monsters where science shows us windmills. -- Phat

It has always struck me as odd that fundies devote so much time and effort into trying to find a naturalistic explanation for their mythical flood, while looking for magical explanations for things that actually happened. -- Dr. Adequate

Howling about evidence is a conversation stopper, and it never stops to think if the claim could possibly be true -- foreveryoung


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Message 25 of 68 (734574)
07-30-2014 10:40 PM
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07-30-2014 9:30 PM


I'm going to have to object here to the Derrick and Peg jokes. Either they have no point or they are just too high brow. As for the rest, I can still remember the foul mouthed fifth grader whom I heard tell those jokes for the first time. Last I heard, he was the pastor of a large church in Atlanta.

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Under a government which imprisons any unjustly, the true place for a just man is also in prison. Thoreau: Civil Disobedience (1846)

I have never met a man so ignorant that I couldn't learn something from him. Galileo Galilei

If there is no struggle, there is no progress. Those who profess to favor freedom, and deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning. Frederick Douglass


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mram10
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Message 26 of 68 (735482)
08-16-2014 3:05 PM


No need to worry, just got busy with work

Adequate,
Please keep to logical discussions rather than personal attacks. If we were in the same room, I guarantee you would be more respectful. In fact, you should talk to people on the internet, as though they were with you in a room(most likely in your parents basement)

As for the original question, I am curious why a tail was not retained from monkeys forward. Thank you for the very obvious statements regarding apes not having tails Earth shattering news.

Point is, why is it so easy to give credit to the natural selection process, but not be able to give credit to something putting that process into motion?

ps- as for the arms coming out of your temples ..... I am not aware of ancestral forms having those. Please link your evidence

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Dr Adequate
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Message 27 of 68 (735496)
08-16-2014 5:19 PM
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08-16-2014 3:05 PM


Please keep to logical discussions rather than personal attacks. If we were in the same room, I guarantee you would be more respectful.

I don't see how you could guarantee that, short of not saying any really dumb things.

In fact, you should talk to people on the internet, as though they were with you in a room(most likely in your parents basement)

My parents' basement, eh? Do you consider that sort of outworn jibe to be an example of how to "keep to logical discussions", or are you a hypocrite?

As for the original question, I am curious why a tail was not retained from monkeys forward.

And as has been pointed out to you, it wouldn't be much use. Which you know, because you yourself don't think it would be much use. You aren't mad at God for not giving you a tail, and you don't try to remedy the supposed deficiency by strapping something to your ass. Despite your posts, you don't actually feel the need for one.

Thank you for the very obvious statements regarding apes not having tails Earth shattering news.

If you knew why the question you actually asked was dumb, maybe you should have asked a non-dumb question, instead of getting all petulant and sarcastic when people address the question that you actually asked.

Point is, why is it so easy to give credit to the natural selection process, but not be able to give credit to something putting that process into motion?

If that is your point, then perhaps you could expand on it a little, as it's somewhat cryptic as it stands.

Edited by Dr Adequate, : No reason given.


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mram10
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Message 28 of 68 (735502)
08-16-2014 5:40 PM
Reply to: Message 27 by Dr Adequate
08-16-2014 5:19 PM


Mr. Inadaquate,

I can guarantee it

As for a tail not being useful, that is a ridiculous statement. Balance, open doors, scratch your back. There are plenty of advantages to having a tail.

As for the rest of your comments, not worth replying to each..... as usual. Of your 12k posts, how many are actually of use? 20 ... maybe 30?


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DrJones*
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Message 29 of 68 (735503)
08-16-2014 5:45 PM
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08-16-2014 5:40 PM


As for a tail not being useful, that is a ridiculous statement. Balance, open doors, scratch your back. There are plenty of advantages to having a tail.

so god done goofed when she didn't give us one.

It's not enough to bash in heads, you've got to bash in minds
soon I discovered that this rock thing was true
Jerry Lee Lewis was the devil
Jesus was an architect previous to his career as a prophet
All of a sudden i found myself in love with the world
And so there was only one thing I could do
Was ding a ding dang my dang along ling long - Jesus Built my Hotrod Ministry
Live every week like it's Shark Week! - Tracey Jordan
Just a monkey in a long line of kings. - Matthew Good
If "elitist" just means "not the dumbest motherfucker in the room", I'll be an elitist! - Get Your War On
*not an actual doctor

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mram10
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Message 30 of 68 (735506)
08-16-2014 5:51 PM
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08-16-2014 5:45 PM


Dr Jones,
So you blame God when something goes wrong, yet you give credit to natural selection if you deem it goes right?
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