Is it time to consider compulsory vaccinations?

I.e. you can't list one piece of evidence from the movie. Telling.

You are right but I have to slog through dozens of emails to ferret out the sources, I'm not up to it right now. On an issue like this I would just hope somebody might have enough of an inkling that the dissenters are rational and honest to be interested in discovering more on your own. If not, then not. I'll slog through trhe emails eventually.OK if you haven't called anyone a crackpot I take it back but those who are on your side make that accusation all the time.

I didn't take notes on the movie. I have to watch it again. But it shows how researchers drop data and cases that don't show what they want, and that one research was done four times before they got it adjusted to an acceptable level.

Your statistics say nothing about who had such effects from measles. Healthy well fed children are probably not in that group. Perhaps the real message is the improved health care and nutrition that protects against such effects.

Or maybe I just go with the overwhelming majority of health professionnals until a dissenter present a strong case in his favor. Your line of thinking sounds a lot like the "teach the controversy" argument. Association fallacy

Sigh. It is not used in any childhood immunizations because those are generally provided in single dose vials. It is still provided in some flu vaccinations that are provided in multi-dose vials. The mercury in those vaccinations is safe. There is no evidence to the contrary at all.You/The move cannot even get the story straight, and furthermore, the mercury is a non issue. If the movie is complaining about mercury and aluminum in vaccines, the movie is BS. Period.

Small wonder that you haven't been able to convince people that you are right. But the dissenters nonsense is all over the internet. Assuming that there is some evidence, there is little excuse for you not being able to find their arguments.

True, but why are you pretending that these are my rules? It is the public's space and the public has rules about it. You don't give a crap about the rules or who else you endanger, and somehow I'm the freedom hating bad guy?You can smoke, but you cannot smoke in public. You can leave off your clothes, but not in public, and nobody is going to hold your kids down and make them take shots, but they aren't getting into public school. That's your freedom of choice.Edited by NoNukes, : No reason given.

Many of the dissenters, especially those who appear in the med and on web sites, are not rational and are probably not honest. Their lies and misrepresentations are easily detected by honest appraisal.Obviously you've unquestioningly swallowed the antivax propaganda without rational analysis or checking any other sources.I've discovered more on my own, as have many others (see Respectful Insolence, for example.

Yup. As I said, you don't have any evidence whatsoever. Go ahead and watch it again and take notes. Especially the references for their claims.

The reason we want references is to vet them. It is not going to be enough to simply cite facts from the movie. It will be important to cite sources so that there is some hope of comparing the movie to reality.If you did not take notes, it is clear that you did not do any vetting yourself. You just listened and believed.

It's really sad how people of Faith's ilk prefer making up crap to finding outHealthy and well-fed children are in that group. The statistics I posted already reflected a gigantic drop in measles incidence due to better nutrition and sanitation. But it's now getting worse, and a significant contribution to that worsening is lowering vaccination rates due to ant-vax nuts. From 13 Numbers That Explain The Resurgence Of Measles In The U.S.:

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The year there was no continuous measles transmission for more than 12 months, which meant measles had been eliminated in the U.S. End of story, right? Unfortunately, no. Two trends -- an increasingly connected world and dropping vaccine rates -- are colliding to create mini measles outbreaks across the U.S. The Disneyland outbreak is only the most recent; a traveling Amish missionary returned from the Philippines last March and infected his community, where people had stopped vaccinating against the measles out of fear, resulting in 382 cases.

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The consequence has been a slow but steady increase in U.S. measles cases. In 2014, there were 644 cases, the most in 20 years.

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I asked, I didn't declare.So if you want to eliminate measles (though some do wonder why since the disease is normally survivable and confers immunity) stop blaming those who have good reason to distrust vaccination and make vaccines safer. Stop blaming the victims and start making the perps do it right. Or run them out of business. At least make them subject to lawsuits. The fact that they can get away with it is why they are doing this to us.

Yes I found the movie believable. Along with all the other information I've been getting about the dangers of vaccines.

No doubt.But your personal say so is not good enough. We know how you are drawn to conspiracy theories like a moth to a candle flame.And during this discussion you've already been caught making bogus arguments, citing non-facts, and misreading information. Post your sources.