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Percy
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Message 1 of 55 (736423)
09-10-2014 8:48 AM


I've created an EvC Forum Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/pages/EvC-Forum/696785293741157. The goal is to channel Facebook users interested in the creation/evolution debate to the EvC Forum website.

I don't know Facebook and need help.

First, I need to add our logo to the top page in the same way as the large image at the top of this IBM page: https://www.facebook.com/IBM. How do I do that?

Second, why is the link to IBM's page simple (just .../IBM) while EvC Forum's is complex (.../pages/EvC-Forum/696785293741157).

Third, I can't seem to go through the Facebook promotion process (where I can list interest areas) without selecting a payment method. EvC Forum of course accepts no payments.

Fourth, constructive advice about what to do next would be greatly appreciated.

--Percy


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Message 2 of 55 (736434)
09-10-2014 10:35 AM
Reply to: Message 1 by Percy
09-10-2014 8:48 AM


Mine has a camera logo in the upper left corner that I can click on to change the pic.

In your profile options you should be able to select a URL for your page; that's how it works for personal pages. I cannot remember how to get there, and Facebook changes their interface every week so it is probably different by now anyway.

Fourth, constructive advice about what to do next would be greatly appreciated.

Good luck!


Love your enemies!

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Percy
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Message 3 of 55 (736438)
09-10-2014 11:32 AM
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09-10-2014 10:35 AM


Jon writes:

Mine has a camera logo in the upper left corner that I can click on to change the pic.

That just changes the little square pic. Visit https://www.facebook.com/IBM and you'll see what I mean. They have the little square pic that just says IBM, but behind it they also have an image that spans the entire width of the page.

Another question for people: Under Settings->Topics, it won't let me "Choose three words to describe your Page". The "Save Changes" button is there but not active.

--Percy


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Message 4 of 55 (736441)
09-10-2014 11:44 AM
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09-10-2014 8:48 AM


You want to make the EvC banner your "cover photo". Right now it is your "profile picture". On my facebook page there is a camera icon on each that I can click to change them.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Message 5 of 55 (736444)
09-10-2014 11:58 AM
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09-10-2014 11:32 AM


You should have a camera icon for both of them.

Love your enemies!

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Percy
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Message 6 of 55 (736457)
09-10-2014 1:28 PM
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09-10-2014 11:58 AM


Hmmm, I had tried that before but it didn't seem to do anything. Worked this time. Gotta be user error, but I don't know what I did. Thanks!

I'll have to work on the image. They require it to be 150 pixels high minimum, but then they magnify it to fit the height of the space instead of changing the height of the space. They're forcing me to an aspect ratio for which I have no suitable image at this time. Maybe I'll just throw up my hands in frustration and grab some generic image of a bunch of happy young people enjoying themselves like everyone else does.

I wonder if there's a way to automatically update the Facebook page with things like most recent post or member.

--Percy


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Tempe 12ft Chicken
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Message 7 of 55 (736461)
09-10-2014 2:19 PM
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09-10-2014 1:28 PM


From the Skepti-Forum pages, you may think about asking Knigel Holmes about how to set up Facebook pages. He set up all of the Skepti-forum network of pages on Facebook, including Skepti-Forum, GMO Skepti-Forum, Environment Skepti-Forum, Energy Skepti-Forum, and....you get the idea. He is a very pleasant person to chat with, so I am sure he would be willing to offer suggestions if you need help solving how to do something. Other than that, I am on my way to join up with the EVC folks in Facebook time!

The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins

Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov

If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a persons body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson

What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams


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Message 8 of 55 (736462)
09-10-2014 2:19 PM
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09-10-2014 1:28 PM


Percy writes:

Maybe I'll just throw up my hands in frustration and grab some generic image of a bunch of happy young people enjoying themselves like everyone else does.


We should all get together for a group photo.
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Tanypteryx
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Message 9 of 55 (736463)
09-10-2014 3:06 PM
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09-10-2014 1:28 PM


You should be able to resize the image in Photoshop without constraining the proportions. This would stretch or contract the image without distorting it too much, I think.

What if Eleanor Roosevelt had wings? -- Monty Python

One important characteristic of a theory is that is has survived repeated attempts to falsify it. Contrary to your understanding, all available evidence confirms it. --Subbie

If evolution is shown to be false, it will be at the hands of things that are true, not made up. --percy


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Percy
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Message 10 of 55 (736464)
09-10-2014 3:30 PM
Reply to: Message 9 by Tanypteryx
09-10-2014 3:06 PM


It's the aspect ratio that's the problem. Facebook scales the image so that it is exactly as high as the space available in that box at the top of the page. If you have an image that is many times wider than it is high then very little of it will fit. Their box is 2.75 times as wide as it is high, while the EvC Forum image is 6.9 times as wide as high, so only about 40% of the width of the image will fit in that box.

--Percu


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Message 11 of 55 (736465)
09-10-2014 3:37 PM
Reply to: Message 10 by Percy
09-10-2014 3:30 PM


Maybe just surround it in white like this:

Or maybe black looks better:


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Percy
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Message 12 of 55 (736468)
09-10-2014 3:58 PM
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09-10-2014 3:37 PM


Great idea.

--Percy


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New Cat's Eye
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Message 13 of 55 (736470)
09-10-2014 4:11 PM
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09-10-2014 3:58 PM


I think you should leave the "Understanding through Discussion" part under the gold EvC logo, it looks good and adds a lot.

Now, how am I going to be able to be a dick to people, anonymously, if they know who I am on Facebook?

And how will I keep my real life friends from finding all the politically incorrect crap I spout here?

I'm not sure I'm down with losing my anonymity.


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Percy
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Message 14 of 55 (736472)
09-10-2014 4:28 PM
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09-10-2014 4:11 PM


Another great idea.

I know you were tongue-in-cheek, but this won't remove anonymity from members. People coming from Facebook will (soon) be able to log in here automatically through their Facebook account, but they'll still have the option to register an EvC Forum account and remain anonymous.

--Percy


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Tempe 12ft Chicken
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Message 15 of 55 (736474)
09-10-2014 4:46 PM
Reply to: Message 13 by New Cat's Eye
09-10-2014 4:11 PM


Aliases
Hey CS, I know from many of the Pro-GMO groups I participate in people have begun using aliases because of anti-GMO individuals making death threats against people defending biotechnology. The most recent one happened to someone and was received from someone in their own town, which was quite frightening for him, especially considering they threatened his family as well. Perhaps creating a Sock Facebook account for your EVC persona can allow you to retain your anonymity while debating, which should give you the freedom to continue to be a dick when you want to.

Myself, if someone wants to try and threaten me because of my viewpoints, I'll call them out on their crazy, so on Facebook I debate with my real name. I think that in debate, asking for anonymity, especially when individuals may threaten someone, is an understandable desire, however. So, I would say that Socking it would be the best route for you.

ABE - Worst case (as creating an account with a false name is technically against the rules), they will suspend the account if they determine it is fake and you would just have to make a new one.

Edited by Tempe 12ft Chicken, : No reason given.


The theory of evolution by cumulative natural selection is the only theory we know of that is in principle capable of explaining the existence of organized complexity. - Richard Dawkins

Creationists make it sound as though a 'theory' is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night. - Issac Asimov

If you removed all the arteries, veins, & capillaries from a persons body, and tied them end-to-endthe person will die. - Neil Degrasse Tyson

What would Buddha do? Nothing! What does the Buddhist terrorist do? Goes into the middle of the street, takes the gas, *pfft*, Self-Barbecue. The Christian and the Muslim on either side are yelling, "What the Fuck are you doing?" The Buddhist says, "Making you deal with your shit. - Robin Williams


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